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    Heaven knows what this committee is doing, but last year our OC in Melbourne increased the office bearers insurance from $1M to $10m.

    I know they are pretty dodgy people, but what is the normal/usual office bearers insurance required for a committee of a block of 10 units?

    Also, what is their responsibility if they do something illegal – aren’t they still liable?

    What does this type of insurance actually cover?

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  • #21957
    Sir Humphrey
    Strataguru

      We have $1,000,000 for ‘office bearer’s liability’ and $20,000,000 for ‘legal liability’ (IE 3rd party liability). I think those amounts are pretty standard though we are just over 100 units. 

      #21960

      For what it’s worth when our Strata insurance renewal was due recently the broker our Strata Manager uses to facilitate all this renewal work was recommending our Office Bearers insurance be increased from $5m to $10m. – the reasoning was that many strata owners are getting more litigious .  

      We are not a large block (25) but we do have a pool and we are starting to get quite a few maintenance issues as the property ages.  In NSW

      Maybe the broker was just trying to get more commission for themselves and the strata manager !!

      #21962
      Whale
      Flatchatter

        You’re possibly right in your assumption that the Broker was just chasing a higher commission because $1M is the norm., although it will all be for naught as you’re again right in concluding that any illegal actions by Committee Members collectively or individually aren’t covered at all, and nor is any penalty that a Court may subsequently issue to any of them in circumstances where the legal defense that IS afforded under the Liability Policy is unsuccessful.

        Furthermore, the term “illegal” is pretty broad, and includes things like Committee Members behaving dishonestly, maliciously, fraudulently, libelously, and by doing things as part of their role that improperly benefit them, collectively or individually.

        So to conclude, if your Committee really does comprise “pretty dodgy people”, then NO amount of Office Bearers’ Liability Cover will be of benefit.

        #21969
        imported_dech
        Blocked

              A major Strata insurer in NSW advised that Office holders will be covered for anything including illegal (not in accordance with “The Act”) actions provided they acted “in good faith”.

               I have a suspicion that many Strata Managers (SM’s) don’t advise about requirements such as where there is a requirement for special resolutions/percentage of entitlements to pass or reject same – in order to provide cover for EC members, if sued they could genuinely state that they were unaware of the legal requirements and presumed the SM would advise of any breaches.  Any manager who was diligent in this area may well face being removed for being overly legalistic or pedantic where some EC members hear that some other managers don’t mention these inconvenient rules or as in a case I’m very familiar with are no longer or never were aware of the rudiments of Strata legislation.

          #21970
          Whale
          Flatchatter

            Dech – I take your point about Strata Managers, although wonder whether some omit to properly advise their Clients (Owners Corporations) simply because they themselves don’t know even the basic tenets of Strata Legislation.

            With regard to Office Bearers “unawareness” being a defense, I seem to recall something in Law about a persons lack of awareness about a legal requirement only being a defense if it (the law) was not known to the person, and it had not been published or been otherwise reasonably accessible to them; that could hardly be claimed by Executive Committee Members or a Strata Manager for that matter with regard to the provisions of Strata Legislation.

            Further, I can’t agree with advice about actions in good faith being a defense for an illegality, in fact our Insurer’s product disclosure statement makes it pretty clear that “any dishonest or fraudulent act, criminal act or malicious act or omission” by an Office Bearer renders that component of the policy null and void.

            #21980
            Sir Humphrey
            Strataguru

              @PeterC said:
              We have $1,000,000 for ‘office bearer’s liability’ and $20,000,000 for ‘legal liability’ (IE 3rd party liability). I think those amounts are pretty standard though we are just over 100 units. 

              By chance this came up at our AGM a couple of days ago. Our managing agent noticed the $1,000,000 and said that for our large OC $10,000,000 might be more appropriate. The AGM resolved that the EC could adjust the insurance level up on advice from the insurer about usual practice. We have asked and have yet to hear back. 

              #21999
              Mr Strata
              Flatchatter

                Guys, the question that you may wish to ask yourselves, ‘if I were a director of a company, and could be sued for a decision I did or didn’t make, would I prefer to be appropriately insured’

                The Executive Committee should be considered to be much like a board of directors.

                I have witnessed Executive Committee Members being sued personally and collectively for decisions that they have made, despite legal advice to suggest not to, while the decision was not illegal. The individual EC members legal expenses were covered by the OB cover of the owners corporation.

                The big issue that I am exposed to is where the EC don’t engage with or consult their strata managers, being professional, trained strata managers, that either have proper answers for their clients and or access to appropriate resources or consultants (lawyers, engineers etc). Most Strata Managers that are worth their salt are more than happy to provide good sound advice or encourage obtaining the needed information.

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