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    zerotwoalpha
    Flatchatter

      Hi All – long time lurker here

      I am on the Executive Committee for my NSW Strata Scheme. We are currently finalising a fire order. In this process we have gotten advice that we need to refurbish our carpark ventilation pumps.

      The area where the pumps are located is currently inaccessable; blocked off by another owner who has built a garage in his parking spot. On review of this structure, the committee discovered that it is substantially (about 10 sqm) outside the lot boundary of his parking space. We have contacted the owner who, while offering to ‘put in a door and provide access’ was not willing to remove his structure from Common Property, stating that no-one was using the area when he built the structure (in the 90’s), that prevented the area from further damage (because you can’t get to the ventilation pumps now) and that he had approval from the EC at the time (who were dodgy as). We haven’t been able to find any record of this, and all he has presented us was that he was given verbal permission and that it would be apparently be recorded in the minutes somewhere. There definately was no special resolution recorded anywhere.

      Our committee has written him letters and met with him at an EC meeting to discuss. He has refused to move the garage, but offered to provide us access through by installing a door.

      We are currently looking at mediation as the option to pursue. 

      What I’m after from this forum is some advice on how to proceed, including whether we can just take the structure down. I’m concerned that we are unable to finalise the fire order until this is completed. I’m also concerned that this may be costly to our Strata Scheme to pursue. As it is substantially on common property, can we charge him rent for the space he is occupying? If we are successful in asking him to remove his garage, can we be reimbursed for the costs involved in doing so?

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      kiwipaul
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        @zerotwoalpha said:

        We are currently looking at mediation as the option to pursue. 

        I don’t quite see why you require mediation if their is no special bylaw granting him exclusive use of the area you can tell him to remove the structure from common property within 7 days or your contractor will remove it and send him the bill. Doing it this way he has then got to go to conciliation and adjudication to stop you and as their is no exclusive use registered he is on to a looser.

        The document you require to reference are the bylaws (held by the lands dept of NSW gov) and in particular the SBL to ensure he has not got one registered for his structure. Although your SM should have a current copy.

        A vague promise from 10 years ago is meaningless and the EC cannot grant owners exclusive use of common property anyway.

        #21413
        Jimmy-T
        Keymaster

          Kiwpaul is right, there is nothing to mediate.

          In the absence of a special resolution by-law, the Owners Cooperation is entitled to ask the garage owner to remove,  at their own expense, any structure that’s on common property without a special resolution by-law giving them permission to have it.

          However, that’s probably not going to work for anyone.  I would keep that up yours sleeve and meanwhile tell the owner that you want to formalise the acceptance of the garage with a special resolution by-law that:

          a) makes them responsible for the garage and the common property on which it stands
          b) Compensates the owners corp financially (probably a token amount) 
          c) Guarantees access at any time to the Common Property plant
          d) the by-law is drawn up at the owner’s expense

          When they refuse, as they undoubtedly will, then you tell them that you are legally entitled to ask them to remove their garage from common property and that you have a duty of care to other owners to make sure that they don’t become liable for maintaining private property that is left on common property (as you will be if chummy sells before this is resolved)

          The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
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          zerotwoalpha
          Flatchatter
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            Thanks for the advice Kiwipaul and Jimmy T

            Our AGM is being held tomorrow with the owner in attendance. The new strata committee should be able to take this further. I will post update once we resolve the situation.

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