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13/08/2013 at 2:36 pm #8984
I have question about what by-laws can and cannot be made for.
Can by-laws be made to restrict the number of residents in an a apartment?
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13/08/2013 at 4:44 pm #19214
You probably could, but then (in NSW) the Residential Tenancies Agreement (Lease) specifies the number of residents that can legally be in a rental premises.
Perhaps a bit more information about the issue you’re trying to address and what State / Territory you’re in would enable some more targeted replies.
13/08/2013 at 4:45 pm #19215I once went to a seminar run by Comsumer Affairs Victoria (who administer the OC and Tenancy Acts) and someone asked a similar question.
Their answer was no.
There might be other Acts and laws that come into play here.
14/08/2013 at 11:00 am #19225I’m not sure, although (in NSW) the only restrictions on the intent of a Special By-Law relates to it not being in conflict with a “superior law” of the State or Commonwealth, not restricting any “dealing” to do with a Lot (e.g. a sale, lease), not restricting the keeping of guide/hearing assistance animals on a Lot, and not restricting the numbers of people under 18 years who may reside in a Lot.
So if the residents are over 18 years, an O/C may get away with the placing of some limitations on adult occupancy rates, but let’s see what our original poster was trying to achieve and where they’re located.
14/08/2013 at 12:38 pm #19230Ok sorry for not being clear. Also thank you for taking the time to get back to me.
I am in NSW.
I own a 2 bed 2 bath apartment in which I live. I am wanting to rent out the spare room and have placed two bunk beds in the room. I have at present three people there making the total apartment occupants 4. I would love to have another person in the room.
The building has passed a by-law imposing a two person per room limit on residents over 18.
I have been to fair trading and they advise that they do not believe by-laws have the authority to determine number of residents.
I have been to Sydney City Council and they have advised that the number of people per room is an arbitrary figure that has no basis or reason for it. They also advised that they no longer put this figure into their DAs because of this.
My real question is how did they come up with this number. There should be some calculation if it health and safety related.
I recall that different councils used to allow differing number of pets. One council would allow 2 dogs another would be 4. Then the courts decided it should not be on a number of animals but rather how those animals are managed. One bad dog is a problem ten good dogs no problem at all.
Ever since I was young I wanted there to be good reasons for rules and I am still the same today.
Thanks heaps
bear
15/08/2013 at 10:09 am #19236It seems that the laws in NSW to allow OCs to limit the number of occupants per apartment are in the pipeline:
APARTMENT owners will be given greater powers to fight overcrowding and ”hot-bedding” in their blocks under new strata laws to be introduced by the state government.
Owners’ groups will be able to set a maximum headcount in flats based on floor space or the number of bedrooms, it is understood. A limit of two adults per bedroom, except in special cases, is likely.
15/08/2013 at 12:37 pm #19237Bear – I’m not surprised by Fair Trading’s reported response as they’re typically uninformed with regard to such matters, but I am surprised by Sydney City Council’s reported response, because they’ve been outspoken on such matters and typically their consents for the construction of multi-unit complexes include conditions stating that the building provide may only be used as a residential complex and not accommodate “more than two or three adult persons per bedroom”.
In any case, there’s no “superior law” of relevance that I’m aware of in NSW, although I’m sure that NSW Fire & Rescue quoted similar occupation rates as being desirable for the bedrooms of apartment buildings after a disastrous fire in an overcrowded building in Liverpool.
So your Owners Corporation (O/C) can legitimately make a Special By-Law to prevent “hot-bedding” (which is what you’re doing) based on the floor space and the numbers of bedrooms, furthermore members of the Executive Committee are entitled to inspect your Unit to check compliance, and as you’ll read in Austman’s post new NSW Strata Laws will further substantiate your O/C’s decision.
Anyway, you’ve got your response – and although I’m sure it’s not the one that you wanted, aren’t a couple of additional people enough to supplement your income?
16/08/2013 at 10:26 am #19242Hey,
Thanks again for your help.
I suppose what I would like to see is a some sort of formulaic method to based on health and safety determine the restrictions on number of people residing. This would remove any subjective quibbling and provide people with an objective reasoning they can understand and hopefully be happy with.
It was advised by the planners at Sydney Council have decided to leave out number or residents because each building is different, floor ratios etc.
It will be interesting to see how different OCs decide to limit residents and on what basis.
Thank you Whale for your thoughts. I am not hot bunking, hot bunking is where multiple people share one bed on a shift basis. I simply have two bunk beds (four beds). The Liverpool disaster came about because of modifications to the apartments including making extra rooms in the lounge rooms etc.
Thanks again for your thoughts.
bear
28/08/2013 at 12:07 pm #19303@bearforce1 said:
I suppose what I would like to see is a some sort of formulaic method to based on health and safety determine the restrictions on number of people residing. This would remove any subjective quibbling and provide people with an objective reasoning they can understand and hopefully be happy with.It was advised by the planners at Sydney Council have decided to leave out number or residents because each building is different, floor ratios etc. It will be interesting to see how different OCs decide to limit residents and on what basis.
It’s one of those perennial problems (becoming almost daily now though!). Most Council consent conditions issued these days provide for an occupancy limit of, say, 2 adults per bedroom. We consider that a by-law that provides that occupancy is limited in that way falls within the provisions of section 43 of the Act and does not fall foul of section 43(4) (a by-law has no force or effect to the extent that it is inconsistent with this or any other Act or law) or section 49(1) (No by-law is capable of operating to prohibit or restrict the devolution of a lot or a transfer, lease, mortgage or other dealing relating to a lot).
What it does is regulate occupancy but does not prohibit or restrict leasing – any more than any other by-law restricts leasing by, for example, prohibiting the keeping of animals (can’t lease to someone who wants to bring their pet with them).
Beverley Hoskinson-Green
Partner | Makinson d’Apice Lawyers
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