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    Jimmy-T
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      QUESTION: An owner’s car was recently damaged by the automatic garage door as it closed on the car’s bumper. Apparently the sensors did not detect that the car was still in range of the door as most of the car had passed through.

      The owner submitted a claim to the owners corporation’s insurance company to repay the excess he had to pay after claiming through his own insurer. The insurance company declined the claim, stating there was no negligence.

      The executive committee has now been asked to vote on whether we should reimburse the owner. One executive committee member (who is a lawyer) says it’s up to the insurers to decide.  The Owners Corporation can only pay for damage caused by negligence and as this is not a case of negligence it would have to be an “ex gratia” payment, which the executive committee is not allowed to make.

      I feel that as the damage was caused by common property at no fault of the owner, we should pay. Who’s right? – Jen, via Forum.

      ANSWER: First of all, the insurer is not judge and jury on who’s to blame.  They have decided it’s not covered by them, which justifies them not paying out.  However, that’s a decision that could be challenged in court, and probably would be if there were much larger sums involved.

      But unless the driver of the car was at fault, you have to assume there’s a problem with the garage gate. It’s common property, therefore you probably do have to pay.  Unfortunately your insurer has chosen not to cover you so this has to come out of your admin fund.

      But the lawyer on your EC (I bet they’re not a strata lawyer) shouldn’t make the common mistake that lack of cover means no liability – it just means that if you are liable then you have to find the funds somewhere else.

      It’s a bill that probably has to be paid, simple as that. Ex gratia payments to committee members are a whole different issue.

      Read the whole issue HERE.

       

       

      The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
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      One question about the auto door openers, were they original equipment installed with the garage doors and originally sold with the unit when it was new? If they were, then it is the Body Corps responsibility as they form part of common property and equipment, the BC's insurance is liable. If they were added to the garage door by various owners over time, then it is the current owners responsibility and therefore they should claim on their own insurance.

      If they are older units then there should be a By-Law in place to cover garage doors which expressly allows a lot owner to add an automatic garage door opener to the common property garage door. The By-Law should clearly state that the lot owner accepts responsibility for all maintenance and any consequential damage to common property or other lot.

      Zorro69

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      Jimmy-T
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        Zorro69 said:

        If they were added to the garage door by various owners over time, then it is the current owners responsibility and therefore they should claim on their own insurance.

        I'm not so sure about that, Zorro.  If the OC has turned a blind eye to additions and the unit has been sold on to a new owner with no by-law or special resolution in place, then the responsibility for the addition to common property rests with the Owners Corp, not the new owner. It's hardly fair but I'm told it's the law.  Once again, a good reason for never doing these things on a nod and a wink.

        The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
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