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    Jimmy-T
    Keymaster

      New laws tabled this week will force strata committee members to undergo training, levies in new blocks will have to be realistic and embedded network scams could see sales cancelled.

      [See the full post at: New laws: compulsory training for committees]

      The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
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    • #77048
      kaindub
      Flatchatter

        With the increasing size of strata buildings, its increasingly more difficult and time consuming to be a committee member.

        I see a future where we have professional committee members, similar to the way we have independent members of boards of public companies.

        These people would be elected by the owners as their committee and paid accordingly.

        These people would be highly trained in strata ( but would excluded strata managers acting in such a role in order to ensure independence) and act in the interests of the owners.

         

        #77072
        tina
        Flatchatter

          I am looking ahead and wondering who is going to provide the strata committee training?

          Will it be an on-line course provided by Fair Trading?  Read some slides.  Answer ten multiple choice questions and print my PDF certificate?

          I fear it is going to be an accredited course provided by Strata Community Association and it will cost thousands of dollars.

          If Flat Chat provided strata committee training, I would do it.

          #77080
          kaindub
          Flatchatter

            tina

            SCA used to provide a course for committee members. If I recall it was a few hours face to face and the cost was about $85

            But I get what you are saying. As soon as anything becomes mandatory, the providers get in and gouge.

            I think that any training has to be better than none (as the case now) but it may discourage time poor but competent potential committee members.

            #77087
            Jimmy-T
            Keymaster
            Chat-starter

              How will we be able to know that committee members have actually received training? Online registration? Easy to fake. Physical attendance at a class? Somewhat onerous and expensive.

              Is this in fact the end of strata committees as we know them?  Will it result in shifting more power and responsibility to strata managers?

              For what it’s worth, I’d rather have a good strata manager than a bad committee any day.

              The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
              #77155
              StrataChair
              Flatchatter
              (from NSW)

                Yes, I think the training is problematic.

                It risks being legalistic and about compliance. And if SCA gets near it, it’s about doing things that are convenient for agents.

                What’s really needed on committees is a commitment to wanting to live in a well-run community and being willing to do your bit to make that happen.

                So maybe some training that puts the emphasis on that, and on how to reach consensus decisions.

                Our adversarial legal and political system gets us used to black/white, good/bad options.

                The legal obligations have to be there, but I think it’s critical they’re framed as a way to ensure you have a harmonious, safe, well-maintained home. Which, by the way, will maintain its market value.

                As for paid committee members, we started doing that years ago in both the buildings I’m involved in, using the honorarium provision in the legislation. You wouldn’t make a living from it, but the amounts are enough to acknowledge the time involved and have been approved without dissent at each AGM.

                #77192
                Magritte
                Flatchatter

                  Queensland

                  I am thinking that minimal committee members is the go, we have moved from NSW Strata to Queensland Body Corporate and Community Management, and I have just had an incident/maintenance where we wrote straight to the management. No waiting for committee meetings no need to be nice to the committee members to get maintenance done.  Our committee has no email address, so I see no reason for anymore then 3 members with no egos.

                  #77194
                  Jimmy-T
                  Keymaster
                  Chat-starter

                    I have just had an incident/maintenance where we wrote straight to the management. No waiting for committee meetings no need to be nice to the committee members

                    There is a disconnect in SOME strata schemes between SOME strata managers, SOME committees and SOME owners. The SOME total (sorry!) is that too many owners feel that their strata committees and strata managers are operating out of self-interest.  Pay committee members for the meetings they attend and “officers” for the work they do and then you can impose professional standards.

                    The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
                    #77197
                    scotlandx
                    Strataguru

                      I don’t know what the answer to this is – in our scheme of 9 lots, there is not a single person other than me who has the faintest idea how Strata law works, or anything about the framework generally. 2 of the owners on the Committee have been owners for more than 30 years. They are very good at complaining.

                      So that leaves me and the strata manager. At the AGM recently I was abused for an extended period of time by one of those owners, for having the nerve to progress fixing a few things, all of which she had voted for. She then accused me of a conflict of interest and said I shouldn’t be allowed to vote on any matters. I am not sure how much more I can take.

                      I think even if you had a training requirement it would be dumbed down, and people like my neighbours would just tick the box and continue on their merry way.

                       

                       

                      #77285
                      Mortimer T
                      Flatchatter

                        Thanks for you comment.

                        The new training requirements are full of good intent, but as with so many legislated compulsions its likely to spawn yet another ‘training’ industry that doesn’t provide much of benefit other than dollars into the trainers pockets. Look at the compulsory 10-year sinking fund planning requirement (NSW) which has delivered for most Strata Schemes, off the peg spreadsheet forecast documents that provide no meaningful or applicable content at all. Good committees already did the right thing, others still haven’t got a clue. Similarly the compulsory inclusion of child safety lock motions in annual meeting agendas.

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