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    stressed
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      I purchased a one bedroom strata unit (renovator’s delight) in an “Art Deco” building, which is located within a heritage conservation area.
      The unit is in a very dilapidated state. There is no kitchen, which was removed prior to purchase. The unit is not habitable in its present state.
      There is extensive deterioration to existing set plaster walls and ceilings / soffits due to water and / or moisture damage.
      The existing floating timber floor also shows evidence of water damage, particularly in the vicinty of a former kitchen sink.
      There is deterioration to the timber double hung windows, sills and architraves, and the sash cords and weights need replacing. The timber window in the bathroom has an exhaust fan in one pane of glass, which is not in keeping with the exterior of the building.
      I engaged an architect to draw up plans and prepare a development application to submit to council. This application includes a structural engineer’s report and a Heritage Impact Statement by a specialist architect.
      I have had meetings with the building manager / caretaker, their plumber, the Stata Manager and the chairman of the Executive Committee who all have copies of our plans for the proposed renovations.
      I have given written notice in accordance with section 116 (2) of SSMA 1996 . I have had no written reply to any of my notices / emails. My only contact has been through the SM.
      I need the Owners Corporation to sign the DA, however they are employing all sorts of delaying tactics. They want me to change my architects plans to not reposition the kitchen, not re configure the bathroom and not instal a washer / dryer.
      Some of the renovation work is the responsibility of the Owners Corporation.
      My last email to SM was sent on 11/02/2014, requesting a meeting to have the DA signed.
      I have not received a reply. How should I proceed?
      Stressed

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    • #21025
      Jimmy-T
      Keymaster

        I can understand why the Owners Corp wants to make sure your renovations don’t impact on other properties – placing a bathroom over or adjacent to the bedroom of another unit could have unfortunate consequences if it isn’t insulated for sound correctly (just for example).

        But I can also understand your frustration at the apparent dithering of people who want to exercise their right to control elements of the process but seem incapable of making decisions about what it is that they want to control.

        This death by indecision can be incredibly frustrating but there are ways to get things moving under strata law.

        For example, you could raise this as a dispute at Fair Trading (who will set up the compulsory mediation) then apply for a section 144 ruling to order the Owners Corp to agree to reasonable changes to common property.  I have reproduced the relevant section below.

        To avoid becoming the EC’s enemy, I would present this to the Strata Manager and EC as an effort to clear the log jam rather than force the issue and reassure them that you are prepared to listen to their concerns – but you can only do that if they let you know in writing what they are.

        Now, this may never get past the mediation stage because once the dialogue starts, you might actually be able to resolve the issues.  But, in case that doesn’t happen, at least you have moved things forward. 

        The critical clause is 2(b) which says the Adjudicator must be satisfied that the Owners Corp has refused to allow you to use common property in a way that would otherwise mean you can’t make use of your lot.

        In your case, that’s exactly what’s going on here.  You might also double up with a Section 62 claim against the Owners Corp, requiring them to maintain and repair common property.  Section 62c is also reproduced below.

        Now, before everybody starts firing lawyers at each other, a competent and professional strata manager will sit down with you and work out how your demands can be met while still keeping the building happy.  But if your SM isn’t up to scratch then you are perfectly entitled to drive the issue to get the result you require.

        Now, that’s just my reading of the issue and other Flatchatters may have their own views but I reckon a chat with the Strata Manager that you are thinking of taking this to Fair Trading and then NCAT (formerly the CTTT) might stop the wheelspin.  

        144Order granting certain licences

        (1)  An Adjudicator may order that the applicant for the order, and any occupier of the lot of which the applicant is the owner, may use specified common property in the manner, for the purposes, and on the terms and conditions (if any), that are specified in the order.

        (2)  An Adjudicator must not make an order under this section unless satisfied:

        (a)  that the lot of which the applicant is owner would otherwise be incapable of reasonable use and enjoyment by the current owner or occupier of the lot or generally by an owner or occupier of the lot, and

        (b)  that the owners corporation has refused to grant a licence to use common property in a manner, for purposes, and on terms and conditions as would enable the current owner or occupier, or generally any owner or occupier, reasonably to use and enjoy that lot …

        (3)  An order under this section, when recorded under section 209, has effect as if its terms were a by-law (but subject to any relevant order made by a superior court).

        (4)  An application for an order under this section may be made only by an owner.

         

        62What are the duties of an owners corporation to maintain and repair property?

        (1)  An owners corporation must properly maintain and keep in a state of good and serviceable repair the common property and any personal property vested in the owners corporation.

        (2)  An owners corporation must renew or replace any fixtures or fittings comprised in the common property and any personal property vested in the owners corporation.

        (3)  This clause does not apply to a particular item of property if the owners corporation determines by special resolution that:

        (a)  it is inappropriate to maintain, renew, replace or repair the property, and

        (b)  its decision will not affect the safety of any building, structure or common property in the strata scheme or detract from the appearance of any property in the strata scheme.

         

        The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
        #21055
        eurojim
        Flatchatter

          JimmyT, your response was informative. I’m facing a similar issue and was wondering whether the same could apply.

           

          I live in an apartment with a private rooftop terrace (i.e. that space is part of my lot). I would like to do some renovations to the terrace – particularly, building a pergola, so that the space is usable (I’ll be engaging an architect and structural engineer). This means having to drill into walls and tiled floor (which I understand is common property), having trades use common property to access the terrace (e.g. the elevator), and potentially obstruct some views of my neighbour (the relevant views are only obtainable through my lot, and are not their primary views).

           

          I’m anticipating the EC and the building management committee to push back or reject the application – recent experience shows that they can be obstructionist – and it appears that the majority of the EC members consist of the developer, or “associates” of the developer. I’m afraid that the EC will use “view obstruction” / “use of common property” / “not in keeping with the look of the building” arguments to knock back the proposal.

           

          Should I take it to OFT for mediation in the event the EC / BMC rejects the proposal? What if I proceeded with construction without approval from the EC (and assuming that a DA isn’t necessary from council)?

           

          Thanks!

          #21092
          Whale
          Flatchatter

            eurojim – what you’re proposing could be considered as erecting a new structure on the Common Property (roof and walls), and if that’s the position adopted by your Owners Corporation (O/C) then unless your Plan has a Registered Special By-Law covering that type of construction, then it’s not a matter for consideration by the Executive or Building Management Committees, but rather by all Owners present personally and by proxy at a General Meeting, where ≥75% would need to vote in favour.

            The fact that the proposed pergola is on a terrace that’s part of your Lot may confuse how your O/C considers it, but instead of pre-empting how your O/C may or may not react, why not discuss everything with your neighbours prior to finalising your design.

            Early discussions will give you the opportunity to explain your plans and to perhaps resolve any issues such as those that you raise with appearance etc, thus reducing the likelihood of opposing votes at the General Meeting if it comes to that, and/or of adverse submissions if consent is refused and you decide to take the matter to Mediation.

            You seem inclined to approach this issue sensibly, and in that regard going ahead with your proposed pergola without the prior written consent of your O/C would be ill-advised in my opinion, particularly as your O/C could seek Interim Orders to halt construction, but moreso because IF you do approach things as I’ve suggested you would, again in my opinion, have excellent prospects to successfully overturn any refusal of consent by the O/C under Sect 140 of the NSW Strata Schemes Management Act which amongst other things states at Cl:1 that “an Adjudicator may order an owners corporation to consent to work proposed to be carried out by an owner if the Adjudicator considers that the owners corporation has unreasonably refused its consent and the work relates to any of the following:

            (a)  alterations to common property directly affecting the owner’s lot”

            That sounds very much like your situation to me!

            Council involvement depends upon a number of factors, including the size of the pergola where structures <25m2 and <3m high are usually considered Complying Developments, but as your proposed location may be atypical you should personally make, or have your Architect make some discrete inquires with your local Council. Remember though, if Council requires a DA they won’t consider it without a letter of consent or of no objection (as applicable) from your O/C.

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