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  • #62187
    Jimmy-T
    Keymaster

      Anyone heading for a hearing at NCAT who is considering “Trumpifying” their case by overloading the tribunal with documents, denying known facts to co
      [See the full post at: High cost of choosing wrong Tribunal tactics]

      The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
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    • #62248
      TrulEConcerned
      Flatchatter

        Good article.

        I have enjoyed success recently at NCAT, as the applicant, where the respondent was a tad “economical” with the facts and dragged out NCAT proceedings unnecessarily. Earlier the respondent kept changing mediation dates. When I declined to agree to yet another change of date the respondent sought for one of several mediation sessions, the registrar agreed with me and binned the planned mediation and instead offered me a direct route to NCAT, rather than delay mediation by 5 weeks as the respondent sought.

        If I may suggest a strategy that worked for me at mediation and at NCAT and should work for others: put together your application for mediation (a prerequisite , in most cases, for a NCAT hearing) as though it’s the NCAT application you’re preparing or say, the “claim” you will provide to the local court, if you think you’ll end up there. That is, right from the get go,  be transparent in what outcome you seek and include every bit of evidence you intend to rely on at every step where you plan to seek redress, starting with mediation. In short: include chapter and verse of the relevant facts.

        Accept the dates offered you by Strata Mediation and/or NCAT, unless you honestly cannot attend at those times.

        That way the mediator and the Tribunal Member (if it ends up at NCAT) or the magistrate (if it ends up in the local court) can all see you as transparent. And that’s the impression you should want the presiding officer to a hold of you.

        Furthermore, treat mediation as a BIG DEAL. A really BIG DEAL. Here attendance is optional and in my experience, some parties do not attend (and they re not penalised) and often some parties’ preparation for mediation is akin to toddler trying to feed herself pasta: the contents end up nowhere near where they should be. Instead they end up all over the place. In the toddler’s case, all over the kitchen and at NCAT, good arguments are strewn in an incoherent manner and piles of evidence need to be waded through to get to the point.

        I have no idea why some prepare poorly for mediation. Perhaps some think they can “wing it” on the day and some think the other party will see that time and money is needed to progress the matter to NCAT and  hence will consent to an agreement reached at mediation.

        The most important lesson I learned at mediation is that agreements made by a party are not enforceable on their own. The party expecting the other party to honour its word must to NCAT to enforce it. That is, if a party agrees to do something or pay something can, as happened in my case, disown their own written agreement. This forces me to go to NCAT  and ask NCAT to order them to comply.

        #62262
        Jimmy-T
        Keymaster
        Chat-starter

          treat mediation as a BIG DEAL. A really BIG DEAL. Here attendance is optional and in my experience, some parties do not attend (and they re not penalised)

          Just to clarify, attendance is not compulsory for the respondents but it is for the plaintiffs.  Apart from in a few very specific circumstances, your application for an NCAT hearing requires you to confirm that you have genuinely attempted mediation.  If you didn’t turn up for the mediation, there will be no Tribunal.

          The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
          #62266
          Just Asking
          Flatchatter

            Mediation is not a dress rehearsal for NCAT. It is an opportunity for the parties to negotiate their own solution, on their own terms. Once they arrive at NCAT they will be subject to the solution imposed upon them by the tribunal.

            If the matter is not resolved at mediation that does not mean the mediation has been a waste of time. Parties can learn useful information about the motivation of the other party, how far apart from resolution the parties are, and insights into the likely manner the other party will run their case. You can better understand which aspects matter most to them. This all helps with preparing a strategy for NCAT, or the possibility of reaching a settlement further down the line.

            #62273
            TrulEConcerned
            Flatchatter

              Jimmy – you’re correct. I did not spell my thoughts out correctly. The applicant indeed must show that he/she attempted Mediation and it failed in part or in whole, before getting the green light to go to NCAT.

              Just asking – in many cases, your explanation of the benefits of Mediation make sense. Especially your point on determining how far apart the parties are, so that at NCAT everyone has a good idea of the chasm to be bridged. But I am involved in a couple of strata schemes where no good faith has been exhibited by the OC. In one case, an OC agreed in writing to doing something by a certain time and then ignored their promise completely. That is why I insist on giving everything (ie evidence) up front and early so as to flag that I am dead serious about the issues and can if need be at NCAT show not only the foot dragging by the OC in the time from Mediation to NCAT but also the time from when a matter was brought to the OC’s attention until it went to Mediation.

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