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04/04/2011 at 10:05 am #7315Anonymous
What can be done by the responsible minority/strata manager when the majority of owners consistently votes for an inadequate budget to maintain a complex in good order and as a consequence refuses to authorise necessary repairs because there is not enough money?
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04/04/2011 at 2:35 pm #12627
You go to Fair Trading/CTTT and ask for an adjudication ordering the Owners' Corporations to undertake the work on the grounds that they have a legal obligation to do so.
Or you ask for the appointment of a statutory manager to take over the running of the building.
Or you and your like-minded neighbours sue your Owners Corporation in the Supreme Court for damages on the grounds that the value of your home has been lowered by their failure to observe their legal responsibilities to undertake repairs.
Or you get a strata lawyer to write a letter to all owners explaining their responsibilities under the Act and the consequences of not fulfilling them.
Or you do any combination of the above
JimmyT
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07/01/2012 at 9:06 am #14489How do we know what is an adequate rate of levies?
Several months ago I think this forum showed a formula that could be used but I have been unable to find that information again.
I realise that Strata plans with more basic accommodation would pay a lower rate than a high rise building with lifts, pool and gym provided.
Please advise.
Thank you.
07/01/2012 at 6:43 pm #14490FCF, all owners corporations are required to have a 10 year plan to help plan levies. Refer here
It doesn't help much that there is no penalty for not having one but you can apply for an order to make the oc make one. I don't know what the remedy would be for one that purposely underestimates requirements so as to keep levys low! But I guess if an owner could go to a Tribunal showing that past plans were purposely 'fudged' maybe the order could cover that.
07/01/2012 at 6:47 pm #14491just an addition to the above. I do the one for my owner's corporation. I just use an Xcel spreadsheet. It is quite easy actually. I am happy to provide you a copy of our spreadsheet if you want.
08/01/2012 at 1:39 pm #14493FlatChatFan said:
How do we know what is an adequate rate of levies? Several months ago I think this forum showed a formula that could be used but I have been unable to find that information again.
I realise that Strata plans with more basic accommodation would pay a lower rate than a high rise building with lifts, pool and gym provided. Please advise.
You're right. There are so many factors at play when it comes to calculating levies but basically it comes down to three elements: the number and cost of facilities and services, the age and condition of the building and number of lots across which the cost can be spread.
For instance, apartment blocks with “resort style” facilities like concierges and swimming pools can be quite expensive. Hotel conversions are notoriously expensive because they often have a lot of lifts servicing a relatively low number of units.
There are developments now that are being designed to keep the levies low which they can do as they are close to commercial or public facilities for those who want them.
Other things that can skew levies are exorbitant management fees and lift maintenance contracts that have been negotiated by the developer (who often doesn't care how much they cost the owners as they, the developers, don't have to pay them). A good example of this is when developers get a discount on their lift installations – a saving to them – in exchange for an exorbitant long-term lift management service contract that the apartment owners have to pay.
But to answer your question as a rule of thumb, a high-end building with lots of facilities, over 100 lots and with no major maintenance issues, should have levies somewhere around 1 percent of the purchase price of the apartment plus or minus a couple of points.
A new development with fewer units, facilities or common property could come in at 0.5 percent or thereabouts.
But this is only a very basic rule of thumb and every building is different. The best way to keep your levies low is to examine every contract and see if you are getting value for money. Check on wastage such as water leaks and excessive use of electricity which will not only save you money but will help the environment. Have a look at GreenStrata for more information on that.
The worst way to reduce levies is to starve your sinking fund, reduce services and neglect maintenance. It may give you a short-term financial benefit but you are effectively reducing the value of every property in the building and that's too high a price to pay for the majority of owners.
This may sound tough, but if your building is well-run and the budget is tightly controlled and you still can't afford the levies, then it's time to start looking for a new home.
The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
09/01/2012 at 5:59 am #14498Thanks Jimmy, I appreciate you repeating your previous advice.
I think that our levies fit into the formula, but the development is over 30 years old and my pre-purchase building inspection mentioned some potential problems because of the age of the villa.
I suspect that the same would apply to the other villas, and possibly, it could mean that in a few years all would need some major work to ceilings and roofs.
I will ask if my concern can go onto the Agenda of the AGM.
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