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    Jimmy-T
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      By Jimmy Thomson

      Apartment buildings in NSW could be forced to accept short-term lets – including every weekend – under proposals currently being formulated by a parliamentary inquiry.

      And protections for owners who don’t want short-stay lets offered through online agencies such as Airbnb and Stayz in their buildings were “blown out of the water” by City of Sydney’s submissions, according to a committee insider.

      This is a longer version of the story that first appeared
      in the Sydney Morning Herald on Aug 27,2016

      City of Sydney’s proposals are there be no limit on people renting rooms in their homes – as long as they are present.  But complete homes, including apartments, could be let for a specified number days a year before they had to apply for a “change of use” planning approval.

      One figure being seriously considered is 100 days a year. Critics have pointed out that this  is the equivalent of every weekend – the times when short-stay guest disruption is at its worst.

      The Sydney model has been seized upon by pro-short stay committee members who are apparently using it as a ‘least worst’ benchmark, dismissing protection even for buildings where the vast majority of owners don’t want holiday lets in their unit blocks.

      The committee was due to meet last week to finalise its proposals but the plan was scuppered by the marathon all-night sitting to discuss the ban on greyhounds.

      According to unnamed sources close to the committee, it is moving closer to a combination of three models, two from interstate and one from City of Sydney.

      The first element is the Victorian model which allows short-stay letting in strata schemes but has provisions for suing hosts and their guests for damages, including disruptive behaviour, and a three strikes rule that could see individual apartments banned from having short-stay lets in the future.

      Apartment resident groups in Melbourne, still reeling from Supreme Court defeats over the notorious Watergate building there, have lambasted the laws, due to come in later this year.

      Residents’ group WeLiveHere claim they offer no protection for long-term unit resident as they will be impossible to police and will require constant vigilance and repeated legal action if they are to have any effect.

      The second element under consideration for NSW legislation is the Queensland Party House legislation, brought in to prevent houses and units, primarily in the Gold Coast, from being set up as weekend party venues  – where revellers would literally party for 48 hours, often with rock bands, DJs and strippers.

      But it’s the third element, the Sydney Model, that worries long-term apartment residents most. City of Sydney suggests that short-term holiday letting be considered differently from the existing tourist and visitor accommodation, meaning it would not have to reach the same planning requirements as established hotels and B&Bs.

      Their submission to the Committee on Environment and Planning’s inquiry into the ‘Adequacy of the regulation of short-term holiday letting’ says short-stay lets should be permitted in buildings approved for residential use only and that they should be defined as “exempt developments” in State Environmental Planning Policy – meaning they don’t have to apply for “change of use” approval.

      Currently, apartment blocks in NSW can ban short-term lets by passing by-laws that confirm the block’s adherence to their development approvals and zoning, following the Land and Environment Court’s definition of residential lets as being nothing less than 30 days.

      If, as expected, the Sydney Model forms the basis of the NSW legislation, that ability for strata communities to determine the way the vast majority of owners want their building to run will disappear.

      The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
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      Millie
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        Hi Jimmy

        Any idea how the City of Sydney is going to monitor and legislate its recommendation to Parliament that people can rent out rooms in homes as long as they, the resident, are there?  We’ve had Airbnb adverts for units in our building, listed as ‘private room’, yet when the reviews are posted, frequently it has said that those visiting were “left alone to enjoy the building” or, “there were other Airbnb guests in the other bedrooms”.

        I was at a Meeting of the City of Sydney when the Lord Mayor tabled a ‘Minute‘ of just some of the correspondence the Council had had with the NSW Parliament requesting action against  short-term letting.

        There’s also a copy of Hansard I have when Sydney’s Lord Mayor was a State MP – she’s asking the Parliament questions.  It’s headed: “Protecting Apartment Residents from Impacts of Short-Term Accommodation”. For some reason I can’t now find it on the NSW Parliament’s website – strange or what?

        On 01 OCT 15, after a request from the City of Sydney, the NSW Land and Envirionment Court placed Orders on our residential property banning short-term letting – the Orders include a lovely Penal Notice threatening imprissonment, sequestration of property and a fine ($1.1 million) if the Orders are breached.

        And then on 09 NOV 15 the City of Sydney makes recommendations to the NSW State Parliament that short-term letting of residential properties should be classed ‘Exempt Development’, meaning, short-term let to your heart’s content anywhere, anytime, anyhow – you don’t need permission from Council plus if your neighbours complain, there’s nothing ‘illegal’ about the activity so nowhere to take your complaint.

        With all this, the City of Sydney’s Submission to Parliament doesn’t make sense – to me it’s an absolute backflip.

        There are reports from San Francisco that Airbnb paid out US$8 million in donations in its efforts to defeat legislation aimed at reining in its activities.  Wondering if this sort of activate has gone on here, under the name of ‘political donations’, with a view to changing our Legislation which has repeatedly worked and worked and worked.  One hears that Victoria would give anything to have our Legislation!

        And I guess if the State Parliament accept the City of Sydney’s recommendations, our Court Orders and our 10-months of peace and quiet gets thrown to the winds?

        I reckon Planning and Zoning Laws are only as good as the enforcement of those behind them.  If the zoning laws aren’t enforced, what’s the good of having any legislation?  It comes down to trust in Legislators to enforce the laws.  And if they won’t enforce the Law, the Legislators might as well not be there.

        #25396
        Jimmy-T
        Keymaster
        Chat-starter

          If you want to get on board with the NSW movement to try to prevent stupid, ignorant, self-serving politicians screwing up apartment living because:

          1. They don’t get it
          2. We should all be living in houses anyway
          3. They don’t care
          4. There’s no votes in it, so …
          5. They REALLY don’t care

          Have a look at the Facebook page for Neighbours Not Strangers.

          The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
          #25411
          Millie
          Flatchatter

            Neighbours Not Strangers’ PETITION TO STATE GOVERNMENT is HERE

            Their Website is HERE

            Their Facebook page is HERE

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