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21/04/2011 at 6:29 pm #7340Anonymous
Seeking advice on the following issue: Is a new strata plan and revision of unit entitlements required when balconies are added to an existing strata scheme, or is there some provision where these changes may be unnecessary or can be avoided?
For example, can the owners simply agree or pass a special resolution to add balconies to some or all units without these changes, or is this unavoidable?
All advice gratefully received.
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21/04/2011 at 6:58 pm #12700
The balconies would probably be considered common property, I'm thinking, so no need for any change in UEs – unless someone has acquired a gi-normous terrace.
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21/04/2011 at 11:30 pm #12702We had this question about reassignment of unit entitlements come up when individual townhouses were extended. For example, mine doubled with a second floor it did not have before. The crucial question seemed to be whether the overall value of the property had been substantially altered. Out of 105 units, even doubling one unit did not amount to a substantial increase in the overall value of the entire property (obviously the change is <1%) so no reassignments of unit entitlements was required. The result in practice for us was that even the most substantial changes we could think of would not precipitate a reassignment of unit entitlements.
22/04/2011 at 11:52 am #12704Peter
Now I'm really puzzled. I'm not disputing what you say but it's clear that strata law in Canberra is very, very different form NSW.
Here in NSW, I'm pretty sure if the floor space of a unit in a block doubled, the owners would be expected to take a bigger burden of the overall cost of maintaining the strata complex and everyone else's levies would be reduced accordingly (provided someone went to the trouble of challenging the UEs).
I can't see what changing the value of the whole strata scheme has to do with changing one unit's share of the responibilites for the running of the strata scheme. Unit Entitlements are based on the owner's share of the overall plan.
It's more complicated that the mere size of the unit or of the actual value of the unit but these two factors are closely related and are the major considerations in establishing Unit Entitlements (in NSW, Victoria and WA, if not elsewhere).
In a very rough equation if 10 units each had a UE of 10 making up 100 and then one of the units doubled in size, you would have a very strong case in NSW for arguing that the owner of the expanded unit had 18.18 and everyone else's was reduced to 9.09, still adding up to 100.
Having said that, if ALL the other units were similarly extended, then it wouldn't make much difference.
But if I had doubled the size of my unit and not had to pay any more in levies because of no increase in Unit Entitlements, I'd be keeping very quiet about it. I reckon you might have got a free kick, there, Peter.
By the way, it's different again in Queensland where the unit entitlements are split when it comes to calculating levies – one charge for running costs, the other for overall maintenance.
The thinking is that while a two bedroom sub-penthouse could easily be twice the size of a two bed-room apartment elsewhere in the building, it's occupants aren't going to make twice as much use of the facilities.
But then in Queensland, strata is a whole other minefield.
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23/04/2011 at 1:10 am #12705I thought similarly to Jimmy, in that since the unit entitlement are based relatively within the strata, if changes such as balcony additions were going to benefit some units (area and value wise) and not others, a review of unit entitlements would be in order. And it would be expected that the increased units took up a larger share than previously (and hence other lots a slightly lesser share). At least, in my building, if some units were adding balconies and others not, I would be making it clear that I expected the unit entitlements to be reviewed by an appropriately qualified person.
That said, if all units in the strata plan had similar enough balconies added, it may not be required, as it would affect everyone approximately equally, so the previous unit entitlements are likely to still be fair.
23/04/2011 at 2:40 pm #12706Hmm. I checked the letter I had from a property valuer at the time we were planning our extension. It did seem to be in line with what I wrote above from memory. The argument included that there would be little impact on other owners because I stayed within my unit entitlement and funded it entirely myself so there would be little change in the overall costs owners generally. That valuer's opinion was something I had to submit with the Development Approval.
We actually had a debate about this issue in general at an AGM shortly after I extended, though not particularly because of it. One owner proposed that we should apply to have a review and reallocation of unit entitlements. The Act allows that (in the ACT) with a special resolution. The motion was lost resoundingly. I can't remember if the proposer wanted us to all have the same unit entitlements since it was a long time since the place was built and all owners were a similar burden on the OC for ground maintenance and such. Alternatively, he might have wanted to increase the unit entitlements for the minority of units that had had major extensions all within their unit boundaries. I think both views were put during in the debate. Cogent arguments could be made to make the spread of unit entitlements wider or narrower. In the end few cared to change the status quo.
While our unit entitlements reflected the size of units at the start (and their cost to build), most of our costs now are not particularly proportional to unit size; a small unit costs the OC more than half as much as a unit twice as big. Maintenance of our large area of common land is a major cost along with management fees. Larger units might have more people in them and more chance of wearing out the tennis court or playgrounds but there would not be much in it. Insurance is a significant minority of our costs. I agree I may have had a 'free kick' in that I contribute no more to insurance yet my greater improvements have been covered/absorbed in the overall insurance valuation of the property. On the other hand for most corporate expenses my extension made no difference.
23/04/2011 at 9:23 pm #12708Hi Peter
It's impossible to generalise and I'm not at all familiar with ACT strata law but I know in NSW and elsewhere, if you doubled the size of your home, even if there were exactly the same number of people living there, your neighbours would expect you to pay roughly double the levies.
Unit Entitlements are challenged fairly often here, especially when developers have set up a strata promising low levies to the purchasers of their premium properties.
We had a case here where the owner of the penthouse in an inner city block was paying less than the owner of a one-bedroom flat on a much lower floor … until they were taken to the CTTT.
That said, challenging UEs can be very complicated and stressful so it's not anything anyone would take on lightly.
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25/04/2011 at 11:58 am #12710AnonymousHi, & thanks everyone for your contributions so far. However I admit to still being somewhat confused about this issue. Our strata manager has said that there will need to be a resubdivision so a new strata plan will have to be drawn up, and at that stage new unit entitlements will come into force. He has not been accurate about everything in the past so I am still unsure if this is correct.
Our block has, typically, some owners very keen to have balconies while others are either opposed or undecided. One reason the issue has come up is if only some have balconies & there is a revision of unit entitlements, then this could/would change voting entitlements with some owners increasing their voting power. I suspect all our owners would like to know if our strata advice is correct or not.
25/04/2011 at 12:16 pm #12711I reckon this is so complicated you need to sit down with a specialist strata lawyer and give them the specifics of what you are planning to do so they can tell you what you need to know.
Getting together with the other pro-balcony owners would spread the cost. Or ask the OC to pay for it because it's in everyone's interests to know the facts.
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