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    Whale
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      We’re a self-managed Plan of 31 Units.

      As Secretary, my problem is with a Real Estate Agent
      who as the Property Manager for seven (7) Units within our Plan, seems to have
      no process in place to effectively safeguard unit keys, common property keys,
      and security access cards.

      The keys are to the entry doors of individual Units and
      to common property areas, and the security access cards are specifically allocated
      to those same Units

      This is the third occasion within two (2) years where
      an Owners Corporation audit of all security access cards and common property
      keys on issue has revealed that this Agency has lost a number of those, and has
      misallocated others after removing them from one Unit’s key ring and placing
      them on another!!

      This situation compromises the security of our
      Building, and creates costs to the Owners Corporation through the purchase of
      additional common property keys (restricted), and as the serial numbers of lost
      / missing access cards have to be removed from the security control system, and
      replacements have to be purchased and enrolled on that system.

      Our Plan has a security deposit on common property keys
      and security access cards, but that does not cover the Owners Corporation’s costs
      of rectifying the frequent key / card losses by this Agency!

      Right now, the Owners Corporation is in a stalemate
      situation, as this Agency / Property Manager will not pay the costs of
      replacing lost items, presumably because it’s reluctant to show that cost on
      Proprietor’s Statements, and we won’t issue any more until they do pay.

      Does anyone know if there is a provision within
      Property Management Agreements (NSW) that requires Agencies to keep a key register
      or similar to safeguard Common Property Keys and Security Access Cards?

      If so, is it drawing too long a bow to classify all unit
      the entry keys as Common Property; after all the locks to those doors are Common
      Property?

      So after that long-winded explanation, I’m open to
      suggestions about how best to manage this problem.

      Cheers – “The Whale”

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      Anonymous

        Hate to admit it but the industry both Strata and Property Management is not well supported in the area of key control by the IT systems which we use daily.

        The Property Stock and Business Agents Act confers a duty of care (over keys) on property managers, as far as I know there is no specific section in the agency agreement or PSBA Act about key control.

        While the locks are common property I have never heard of a building taking control of all entry door keys – you would want to think this through as doing so may leave the OC liable if there was a property loss.

        Strata Manage IT.com does have a full access control system built in – look at that.

        #12444
        Whale
        Flatchatter
        Chat-starter

          That's good advice about the door entry keys; it's just that I'm clutching at straws in deciding about how to best manage this situation.

          The latest is that the same Agency wanted to give a carpet cleaner access to a recently vacated Unit, and as they couldn't find the Access Card on issue to that property, they removed one from the keyring to another Unit in our Plan that's also under their “management”, and gave it to the cleaner, who didn't return it.

          The Agency's Receptionist initially referred me to the cleaner, who denied that he was ever given an Access Card, and as it's now been admitted that the Property Manager didn't sign it out, the O/C has yet another Access Card to delete / unenroll from the Security System and a job finding someone to pay for that work and for a replacement. 

          All I can say is that Real Estate Agents are generally regarded as being just above the bottom of the cockies cage, and on the basis of my long experience with their Property Managers, I'm afraid that they are probably just below that.

          Cheers, and thanks again for the advice —- “The Whale”

          #12462
          Anonymous

            I agree with your blunt assessment of Real Estate Agents.

             

            Have you thought about contacting the owner/s of the properties? Though it sounds like they are pretty hands off, they may be interested to hear about the performance, or lack thereof, of the agent they have appointed to manage their property/ies. If teh agent is slack with keys, they are probably slack with vetting tenants, collecting/returning bonds, repairs etc leaving a whole bunch of dissatisfied tenants and increased costs for the owner (who probably thinks the amount of fees they are being charged is normal – not due to the lack of care taken by the agent).  The owner is probably being charged quite a bit for “service” from this agent, and may be interested to hear about the problems that have occured. If you have a good property manager in your building, why not recommend them to the owner/s with the dodgy agent?

             

            Sorry I don't have any legal solutions, but hopefully a practical solution may suffice.

             

            Good luck.

             

            Warm regards, S Jones

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