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    hikiti
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       Hi there, I am seeking your opinions on pros and cons of strata management company owns caretaker company. In addition, could you please tell me the correct procedure of appointing caretaker company? should it be appointed in Annual General Meeting or Executive Committee Meeting. Thank you very much for your advice. 

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    • #23267
      Whale
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        Personally I don’t favour the use of Caretakers, but perhaps my biggest objection would be avoided if the duties of the Caretaker and the Strata Manager didn’t have so much potential to overlap.

        So in general terms your situation could overcome that problem at least, but have a look HERE for how the NSW Legislation requires the appointment to be made.

        #23269
        hikiti
        Flatchatter
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          We have a big site, if strata manager appointed to come everytime there is repairs, we would expect a much bigger charges. plus there is cleaners and landscaping professionals. so caretaker in our building is a must. However, my concerns are being so much bad case out there with invoice fraudulence,overquoting, secret commission etc, I think it might be better to seperate this two company completely so that they can oversee each other, and minimise this risk at the start. 

          In addition, i have another question, might not be relevant to this one above. if we want to change strata manager, can we (I mean EC team) demand the current strata manager to hand over all book, records and trust money before previous strata manager term finish. Or if there has been discovered fraudulence on previous strata manager, what could we do without handing over money for the rest of term in exchange of all books and records and trust money?

          #23280
          Whale
          Flatchatter

            Firstly, the Strata Manager (or somebody from their Office) would only come out to your building when repairs etc are being undertaken if the Agreement / Contract that your Owners Corporation (O/C) has with them requires that attendance, and YES, they’d most certainly charge you to do that at the agreed hourly rate.

            But why would your O/C want them to do that, when most contractors should be quite capable of cleaning or doing whatever is required without the Strata Manager or anybody else looking over their shoulder?

            A Strata Manager and a Caretaker have completely different roles, and it’s when they “oversee” each other that duplication of their activities invariably arises, and when an O/C’s costs consequently increase.

            Secondly, if your O/C wants to terminate the Agreement / Contract that it has with its Strata Manager, then that needs to be in accordance with whatever is in that Agreement / Contract where a minimum of three (3) months written notice is usually required, and be decided by a majority vote of Owners at a General Meeting; the Executive Committee cannot make that decision.

            With regard to a Strata Manager handing-over the O/C’s records to a replacement, that’s what the three (3) months notice is for, but more critically, the O/C needs to have a firm proposal (incl, costs) from the replacement Strata Manager so that Owners can vote to appoint them at the same General Meeting. 

            Finally, if your E/C is of the opinion that its current Strata Manager has behaved fraudulently, then you need to discuss that with whoever it is that administers their License, in NSW that’s the Department of Fair Trading, but as your O/C has a legally binding Agreement / Contract with that Strata Manager it CANNOT just decide not to pay for their Services; best to seek some legal advice on that contractual issue.

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