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08/05/2016 at 4:07 pm #10444
I am currently serving as Secretary on an EC that represents 10 units. The EC currently has 7 members. A bylaw was passed several years ago banning all pets however 3 of the EC members are actively campaigning to amend this. I am concerned about the keeping of pets (particularly dogs/cats) in some of the smaller apartments in the block however am open to owners of garden units having pets. I’ve been advised that amendments to the current bylaw cannot be structured to favour residents with gardens, however having reviewed the current NSW strata law reforms I’m wondering if this is correct as the bylaw could be revised to state that owners can apply to the EC to keep a pet and the EC can reasonably excuse it but only under strict conditions. Could the bylaw therefore be amended to allow only pets where the owner has a garden? I’m finding it quite stressful as it appears there’s a ‘them’ and ‘us’ war brewing.
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08/05/2016 at 5:13 pm #24880
Firstly the new laws will only change the model by-laws that will be available for adoption, mainly by new schemes. They will not affect existing by-laws unless a substantial majority of your owners want to adopt them.
Secondly, the new laws will specifically prohibit by-laws that are “harsh, oppressive and discriminatory” – I would suggest that one interpretation of a by-law limiting pets to owners with gardens could be seen as ticking all three of those boxes.
So what do you do?
My advice would be nothing. I personally favour pets in apartment blocks – they are great community builders and offer a lot of comfort to people who might otherwise be very lonely.
But I also respect the wishes of those who don’t want to live around animals of any kind.
In your position I would offer the facilities of the committee – including your distribution of minutes etc – to both sides of the argument and avoid taking sides yourself.
Your pro-pet owners need to get 75 percent of the owners voting at a general meeting to agree on a change to the by-laws. Tell them that if they can have a by-law ready for the next AGM, you will put it on the agenda.
Your anti-pet owners just need three out of the 10 units to vote against to stop the change. But if a reasonable by-law change convinces eight of the ten owners, then that is the will of the people.
By the way, the strata professional I know think you don’t even need by-laws that specify what is and isn’t acceptable with pets.
There are enough bylaws dealing with noise, nuisance and damage to common property to see any badly behaved pets evicted.
And, on another topic, seven members of a committee in a block of 10 sounds like too many chiefs, to me.
The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
08/05/2016 at 5:45 pm #24881With only 10 owners it would be easy for everyone to quickly get a feel for the numbers. If the numbers look like being 7 in favour and 3 against, I would subtly ask the 3 against if they really want to be known as having been in the minority that thwarted the will of a very substantial majority. Does everyone take part in the AGM? If not everyone shows up only 2 against could be the 25% opposed that would sink the motion.
This gets into a discussion about whether people taking part in the meeting but abstaining on this motion count towards the total when considering whether there is 25% opposed (one third opposed to sink a special resolution in the ACT). In the ACT I would say a person taking part in the meeting but abstaining on this motion is counted to the total. [The question of abstentions is further discussed here]
As it happens, our OC has had a process running for several years to review our ‘rules’ (ACT-speak for ‘by-laws’). We are updating our ancient rules that had not changed since 1976. The first round just rescinded the rules that were no longer relevant or had become redundant since various matters were now covered in the Act. We also adopted various rules from the current default rules mainly to replace the dated wording of similar rules we had previously. The second dealt with more substantial matters but mostly uncontroversial. Nonetheless the EC circulated drafts and asked for comment and got some useful feedback. It also gave an opportunity to explain several times. Often things don’t sink in till it has been presented several times and often people just don’t pay attention. The third round is the animals rule. Again several rounds of consultation. This time there is no way to satisfy all since we have positions ranging from utterly laissez-faire with cats but strict on dogs to the reverse. We think we have a very reasonable middle course, but we will see ‘at the only poll that counts’ in July!
14/05/2016 at 10:16 am #24907I agree with Jimmy and would add that schemes that want to restrict pets to garden apartments are barking up the wrong tree, if you’ll excuse the pun. I think the best way to think about this issue is to remember the laws that apply to all housing. They are that how someone else keeps a pet is no concern of others, unless the manner in which they are keeping a pet amounts to animal cruelty. If so, the appropriate course is to notify the police or the RSPCA. People who live in freestanding houses routinely keep dogs, even though they may only have a tiny courtyard. Some neighbours might think this is ‘cruel’, but they do not have a say in the matter, unless the dog is disturbing them. (Of course, if the dog is walked twice a day, it will be better cared for than a dog in a large yard who is rarely walked).
Apartments should be no different. The only thing neighbours should be concerning themselves with is, ‘is the animal disturbing people?’ If yes, the owner should be fined, the animal trained or removed. I would suggest that strata schemes would probably have more success dealing with problem animals if they all restricted themselves to this question, instead of getting tangled up with by-laws based on pet weight,(crazy when Labradors are irrefutably quieter than fox terriers), or attempting to predict whether an unknown animal will be disturbing (pass the crystal ball). I would add how much open space an apartment has to that list. Someone locking a fox terrier outside in a small garden all day is going to cause the scheme a lot more problems than someone who lets their Labrador or greyhound sleep inside all day on the sofa. At the end of the day, the well-being of the neighours’ animals is not everyone else’s concern. Their only concern is whether they are being disturbed.
And since someone mentioned the ACT, I have to give a shout-out to my favourite strata section in the country – s32 of the Unit Titles (Management) Act 2011 (ACT), which defines ‘animal’ to include ‘mammal (other than human being)’. Just in case any OC was seriously going to entertain the question of whether a resident could keep a human as a pet…….
15/05/2016 at 7:12 pm #24909Hi Cathy,
Thank you for the ‘shout out’ to s.32 of the UTMA! Do you like s. 23? That is a neat paraphrase of the submission I made to the review of the Unit Titles Act in 2010 after we had everything now required by that section to install a PV system to wipe out our OC electricity bill including majority support twice at general meetings in 2009. However, the Act was previously ambiguous about whether a special resolution was required and we did not quite get the numbers for that because a few owners ran a strenuous campaign of misinformation against the proposal.
Anyway, back to animals. Our EC is in the process of drafting a rule (bylaw) on animal keeping to be put to our AGM this year in the ACT. In the current draft, possibly not quite final, it says (formatting not perfectly fixed up) the following. The gist is that you can have just about whatever you like within a unit area (all townhouses) and how you control it is up to you so long as it is not roaming the common property and entering other units. We comply with the Act, which requires permission for even a goldfish by giving the permission via the rule to cover nearly all common situations. However, we don’t preclude the possibility that someone might come up with some unusual and unexpected animal-keeping proposal which might turn out to be quite reasonable after it has been given proper scrutiny.
Draft Rule Keeping of Animals
1) A unit owner, occupier or user of a unit may keep an animal subject to the conditions set out in these Rules.
Note: s.32 of the Unit Titles (Management) Act 2011 states that “a unit owner may keep an animal, or allow an animal to be kept … only with the consent of the owners corporation (which may be given) with or without conditions (but) must not be unreasonably withheld”.
2) Any animal that is deemed by the Executive Committee (EC) to be potentially harmful to the health or safety of others will not be allowed, including any type of dog or other species that is deemed dangerous under any relevant legislation in force in the ACT.
3) A unit owner, occupier or user of a unit who keeps an animal, or allows an animal to be kept, is deemed to have consented to the conditions imposed under these Rules.
Conditions
Approval Process
4) The consent of the Owners Corporation (OC) is granted automatically by this rule for any unit owner, occupier or user of a unit to keep:
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- up to two common household pets (dogs and cats) in the unit as a companion animal(s).
- a sufficiently small number of small animals (such as mice, cage birds, guinea pigs, fish, amphibians or reptiles) in the unit that can reasonably be expected to not cause a nuisance to other residents.
- an assistance animal, such as a guide or hearing dog, used by a unit owner or occupier of a unit or visitor.
5) For any animal not covered by sub-rule 4, including poultry, a unit owner, occupier or user of a unit is required to submit a written request for approval through the managing agent before bringing an animal into the Units Plan.
6) The EC may grant approval, with or without conditions, for an animal not covered by sub-rule 4 to be kept in the Units Plan after consideration of the merits of the proposal but may refuse to grant approval if the applicant fails to provide on request any information that the EC considers relevant, which may include:
- Information about the animal including the breed, weight and standing height, and common characteristics of the species.
- A photograph of the animal.
- Documentation from a veterinarian attesting to whether the animal has been:
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- Desexed
- Micro chipped
- Vaccinated and inoculated for worms and any other parasites as recommended by the RSPCA.
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- Details of how the animal is proposed to be housed or controlled.
Dealing with animal
7) The keeping of animals at XXXXX must comply with the requirements of ACT Government legislation.
Note: At the time this rule was adopted, ACT Government requirements were set out at http://www.tams.act.gov.au/city-services/pets. These requirements include that all dogs and cats must be desexed and micro chipped and that all dogs also must be registered.
The OC also encourages owners, occupiers and users to have animals vaccinated and inoculated for worms and other parasites as recommended by the RSPCA.
8) The animal must stay within the confines of the unit area except when under the control and supervision of a responsible person.
9) The unit owner, occupier or user of a unit must ensure that the animal is appropriately and effectively restrained and under the control of a responsible individual while on common property. This clause is sufficiently flexible to permit off-lead walking and play with appropriately trained dogs or other animals.
Note: The common property does not include the main XXXX public road or its verges… These are a ‘public place’, to which the Domestic Animals Act 2000 applies. S.44 of the Act requires that dogs in public places be restrained by a leash.
10) The unit owner, occupier or user of a unit must ensure that the animal does not soil any part of the common property and is to immediately remove any soiling which may occur on the common property.
11) The unit owner, occupier or user of a unit will be responsible for repairing or making good any harm or damage caused by the animal to any unit or the common property.
12) Sub-rules 8 and 9 do not apply to animals that were accustomed to roaming unaccompanied beyond the unit boundaries before this Rule was adopted and have been included on a ‘grandfathering’ list compiled by the EC.
Dealing with bad behaviour
13) The EC may require the removal of any animal if it determines that the animal’s behaviour or condition causes a nuisance or a threat to the health or safety of other occupants or animals in the Units Plan or unreasonably interferes with the use and enjoyment of another unit or of the common property.
Note: If a unit owner, occupier or user of a unit believes that an animal at another unit is causing nuisance through noise or other means, they should, if possible, try to resolve their concerns directly with the owner of the animal. If this is unsuccessful then they can pursue the matter through provisions of ACT legislation on animal welfare, animal keeping, neighbour disputes, noise and nuisance. If the EC believes it is appropriate to pursue the matter through enforcing the OC Rules, then Rules 6, 7 and 8 may also be relevant.
14) Before removal of any animal, there must be repeated substantiated complaints by neighbours or other unit owners, occupiers or users of units regarding the animal causing a nuisance or threat to other occupants or animals or unreasonably interfering with the use and enjoyment of another unit or of the common property.
15) Any decision made by the EC that an animal must be removed from the Units Plan must be presented in writing to the unit owner, occupier or user of the unit.
16) If the unit owner, occupier or user of the unit fails to comply with any of the conditions in these Rules, the OC may revoke approval and require removal of the animal.
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