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    Jimmy-T
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      I’m sounding like a cracked record on this but the first signs of summer – exhausted travellers buzzing at the door demanding keys to their holiday rental – have set alarm bells ringing in a friend’s building.

      Sure enough, checking the Airbnb website,  we found a two-bedroom unit for over $360 a night, minimum two nights – despite a by-law in the upmarket, iconic block that says residents can’t let apartments for less than three months at a time.

      The listing also ignores a ‘permanent residential only’ council zoning so, on two counts, it’s in breach of Airbnb’s own rule that you must be allowed to let your property.

      So how do you inform Airbnb that your building is off limits and someone is ignoring the law – and Airbnb rules – in order to make a killing on a unit that should be available on the residential rental market?

      After digging around their website in vain for a contact address or phone number, then hassling the wrong people, I was given the email address response@airbnb.com and assured messages to it would be seen at head office.

      Drop them a line if your building is affected. I’ll keep you posted on my cage rattling efforts on the Forum.

      The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
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    • #22596
      Jimmy-T
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        Well, I got a response  … of sorts!

        Sarah M, Nov 16 05:10:

        To whom it may concern,

        I’ve forwarded your inquiry to a member of my team who can better assist you. Please feel free to add any additional information to this email, and we’ll be in touch with you soon.

        Best regards,

        Sarah M
        http://www.airbnb.com/help

        “To whom it may concern?”

        After the time you take to register your name and address, you get a reply that’s as anonymous as a suicide note? Watch this space … but don’t hold your breath.

        The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
        #22607
        Jimmy-T
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          The ‘airheads’ gave me a good kicking in comments on this online story but the Domain editors shut them down when it became clear it was an organised campaign (same phrases, same stupid allegations that I was taking money to attack airbnb).  Not my call but I can see why they pulled them.  You don’t want to be encouraging trolls of any kind.

          Airbnb have actually contacted me and i had a chat with their media person who is going to post something here soon.  Looking forward to it.

          By the way, City of Sydney is currently investigating 80 complaints about illegal lets, some (but not all) are connected to online letting systems.

          The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
          #22608
          Mailbox
          Flatchatter

            From the airbnb Sydney office:

            As the world’s leading community driven hospitality company, we’re excited to be such a big part of how people travel in Australia.  

            Of course, we advise hosts to follow their locally set rules and regulations when listing on Airbnb, and these often differ from council to council, street to street. Around the world, we’re seeing cities and countries pass new laws that enable home sharing, and we’ll continue to work with governments for progressive, fair regulation. 

            Local communities should make rules that work for them, but we also need basic ground rules to ensure regular people can share the home in which they live with visitors and friends. 

            The fact that the majority of our listings are outside of the main hotel areas means a significant boost to local businesses that traditional tourists just don’t visit. Our hosts represent a diverse group that vary in age, occupation, household type and income. The majority of which rent the home they live in occasionally and earn a modest income from it. Our research tells us this income makes a real difference though – with about 50% being spent on essential living expenses such as mortgage repayments, electricity bills and groceries. 

            In terms of getting in touch with us – our ‘contact us’ feature on the site is staffed 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and we take feedback about breaches to our policies very seriously. 

            #22609
            daphne diaphanous
            Flatchatter

              I think they gave you the proverbial finger JimmyT.

              #22611
              Jimmy-T
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                @daphne diaphanous said:
                I think they gave you the proverbial finger JimmyT.

                I promised to run their response without editing it.  I didn’t say I wouldn’t comment.  But I might leave that to the Flat Chat Massive, for a while. Meanwhile, I feel digitally unmoved.

                The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
                #22619
                Jimmy-T
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                  @Mailbox said:
                  From the airbnb Sydney office:

                  In terms of getting in touch with us – our ‘contact us’ feature on the site is staffed 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and we take feedback about breaches to our policies very seriously. 

                  OK, let’s have a quick reality check on that. You have to do a bit of sniffing around on the airbnb website, then scroll to the bottom and click on “help” then click on “community” then “Neighbours” then  “My neighbour is an airbnb host …” you will find a toll-free number to call … in America.  I may be wrong but I suspect than number is far from free if you call it from Australia.  But, just in case, check the link for that HERE.

                  Otherwise the “contact airbnb” feature requires you to be registered on the website and even then provides no local email address or phone number and no obvious place to make your complaint.  Considering that the website boasts more than 1000 listings for Sydney alone and others all over Australia, you’d think we ‘d merit a contact point of our own and an easier way of finding the appropriate link.  

                  The fact is that the airbnb site is totally geared towards the letters and renters (as you’d imagine).  But there should be an easily accessible form, an email address or a phone number for those of us who have a problem and want it fixed at source.

                  The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
                  #21430
                  tharra
                  Flatchatter

                    So airbnb, where is the simple form that Owner’s Corporations can fill in which stops people registering airbnb lets in their building? Airbnb lets & their ilk violates the development consent for our building never mind the added stress on our amenties & common areas which airbnb hosts do not pay for. Insurance, security & fire regulations are other concerns.

                    Plenty of accommodation available in our neck of the woods from luxury to budget. We are not outside of the main hotel/backpackers/b&b area.

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