Top 3 Dangerous Dogs NSW

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  • 04/03/2018 at 8:14 pm #11610
    Louie
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      The Strata Committee has been asked to okay a dog for a tenant.  Of course, we asked the Real Estate two weeks before the tenant moved in to seek permission PRIOR to the tenant moving in.  Didn’t happen.  Apparently the recalcitrant owner gave them verbal permission.  Hence the problem the Strata Committee now faces.  We understand we cannot unreasonably decline the pet permission, the dog is now in residence  and we do not have a Special By-Law which has exceptions, however, the 8month puppy is apparently an American Staffordshire Terrier Cross.  Unfortunately on the news tonight a dear 12 month old girl was mauled to death by the family pet – a Rottweiler.  It then showed that the Top 3 dangerous dogs to maul kids/people and one of them was the Amerian Staffy.  We also understand all dogs have the potential,big or small, but the tenant is allowing 3 neighbour’s kids to play with puppy – well they are pulling, prodding, etc, the puppy.  This is play for the puppy at the moment.  When it gets bigger and American Staffy ends up the size of an Alsatian or bigger, the dog will just not take it.  Is it unreasonable to deny this particular breed of dog?  Most of the Strata Committee do not want to commit themselves to agreeing to this dog, particularly as we have been put in a difficult situation, ie, the dog is now in residence.

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    • 05/03/2018 at 1:28 am #29316
      Jimmy-T
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        have a look at this: https://www.petwave.com/Dogs/Breeds/American-Staffordshire-Terrier/Personality.aspx

        Maybe things aren’t as bad as you think – although it depends a lot on the dog owners and how they treat the animal.

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        05/03/2018 at 7:40 am #29318
        Louie
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          Thanks Jimmy!  Very helpful info.  The rear courtyard of this townhouse is only the size of a normal lounge room.  The dog has been left inside on landlord’s polished floorboards.  Every time the owner comes home we hear ‘What have you done – what have you done’.  Our strata had to pay for damaged floorboards in another rental a few years back.  We can also hear the puppy trying to get out the window, scratching and banging at the plantation shutters and the new strata aluminium window.  We want to be fair as there are other dogs in the complex (small-medium), but we might need to ask the dog is placed in the rear yard as the howling and barking near the open front window is annoying the majority of residents when the owner is out.  Tenant also seeks permission for a cat – so this should be interesting.

          05/03/2018 at 9:02 pm #29321
          Jimmy-T
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            It sound like this dog is not getting the attention it needs, certainly according to the document I posted.

            Bear in mind that there are provisions in strata law to have a pet for which permission has been given removed if it proves to be a nuisance.

            These people just haven’t done their homework so if they end up having to move or find a new home for the dog, that is really not your problem – and you could be doing them and their puppy a favour.

            They are clearly thinking having a kitten will be a companion for the dog.  Again, according to what I’ve read, that could turn very nasty very quickly. 

            I wonder if trying to organise an “intervention” with the RSPCA might head off problems later.

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            09/03/2018 at 4:50 pm #29337
            Louie
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              The Strata Committee has been informed that if they deny the dog application, there may be an application put in for unreasonable dismissal (the Committee being bullied?)  There is no problem with the cat – and we don’t want to be unfair to the puppy or tenant.  This breed of dog seems to have a good personality, as evidenced in the breed standard info you suggested, but it is far too big for the small yard/inside townhouse. The article did suggest that they fiercely protect the family and dogs do escape – it is easier to do something about a little dog but these Staffies get quite big and solid/stocky.  We can hear its daily clanging, banging, howling, barking and we don’t want any claims for strata repairs as this is not normal wear and tear.  (And it is only 8 months old.) Knowing the landlord, I would guess there is no landlord insurance.  The attitude ‘Strata will fix it’.  So what would happen to the Committee if it is deemed that they have been unreasonable.  In our 30 years living at this stratra, this has been the first pet that may be denied.

              10/03/2018 at 11:24 am #29338
              Louie
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                Just a thought:  As the Strata Committee cannot come to a decision (1st time in 30 years regarding a pet) – can we ask all owners (owners corporation) through our Managing Agents to vote. I suppose we are panicking due to the 4 dog attacks in a week – all big dogs. We feel the owners of the property have put us in a difficult situation, which will cause tensions.  Guess it would be the usual majority vote?  Do we have to wait until the AGM in August?  Or can it be done without an Extraordinary General Meeting and more unnecessary expense to our strata.  Can it be done via e-mail/snail mail and the Managing Agents collate the results?  If there are any expenses incurred, can we forward these on to the owners who gave unofficial verbal permission who didn’t ask questions, ie, Dog too big for their townhouse and an additional cat permission.  The answer would be simple if we didn’t have 4 little kids poking and prodding at this puppy (and other dogs) without the parents asking them to be gentle.  Most of us just keep our dogs off common property and away from this behaviour.  The dog suffers if there is a problem.

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