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    Hi Jimmy

    I am new to a Body Corporate for a apartment block in Leichhardt NSW so could you clarify an issue we have with a bathroom leaking water through a common wall due to a failed membrane in a shower, causing blistering paint and damp floorboards to the adjacent unit. The work to be done to rectify to problem are tiles have to be removed and the membrane reinstated and tiling redone in the bathroom and in the adjacent unit the render may have to be repaired and the old paint removed and repainted. The floorboards may also have to be replaced due to warping. What damage is the Body Corporate responsible to fix and is the owner of the leaking bathroom liable for any costs? Thanks

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    Jimmy-T
    Keymaster

      Broadly speaking, the OC is up for all costs, including repairs and repainting of the adjoining apartments unless a) the problem wasn’t caused by a common property failure or b) the owner of the apartment concerned had damaged common property causing it to fail.

      If there’s any dispute over this, it should be handled separately from repairs to common walls etc.  In other words, the OC should fix your walls then, if appropriate, claim costs back from the owner.

      The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
      #14387

      Hi Jimmy,

      I am in a block with a similar water penetration problem.  The unit above me has water leaking through bathroom ceiling into my unit.  After several investigations by plumbers, it has been determined that the waterproofing has failed in the bathroom and needs to be replaced.  In this situation, it is not the orignial flooring. The previous owners completely gutted the bathroom, repositioned the shower, vanity and toilet, which meant additional piping to connect shower, toilet etc up to the orignal common property piping.  The current owner wants to know who is responsible for paying to repair the waterproofing membrane and associated costs with removing her flooring etc?  I had looked at recent documents from fair trading saying it is the o/c, however, as this unit has been renovated and changed is it still their responsibility and not instead the owners.  I hope this makes sense.  Hoping you can help me out with answer or point me in the direction of finding the answer.

      Cheers

      #14407
      Whale
      Flatchatter

        Rydel – As Jimmy hasn’t responded as yet, I’ll offer an opinion.

        The previous Proprietor who completed the upstairs renovations should have received the consent of your Owners Corporation (O/C) before undertaking those works, and IF that procedure was followed, it’s usual for the O/C’s consent to include a provision to the effect that all ongoing maintenance and repairs to the items comprising the renovations is the responsibility of the Proprietor of the Lot (i.e including subsequent Proprietor/s).

        This procedure is in place to safeguard the (structural) integrity of the Common Property during the renovation process and additionally to protect the O/C from any future expense in circumstances where, as examples, the original “developer-quality” tiles may have been replaced by a Proprietor with high-quality “expensive” tiles, or where the waterproofing has not been completed by a Contractor known to and/or engaged by the O/C.

        All the above is dependent upon the Proprietor and your O/C following the correct procedures, so your first inquiry should be of your Strata Manager concerning the existence or otherwise of evidence supporting those procedures.

        If as often happens, the consent of the O/C was neither sought nor given, then the repairs to and the replacement of the waterproofing and tiles on Common Property areas such as the floor and non-internal walls within the renovated area are, by default, the responsibility of the O/C.

        Repairs and replacements to tiles and waterproofing to other areas of the bathroom are the responsibility of the current Proprietor of the Lot.

        #14413
        Jimmy-T
        Keymaster

          Thanks Whale.

           

          Just off the plane from NZ and couldn't have put it better myself.

          The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
          #14416
          Tiaeki
          Flatchatter

            Dear Jimmy,
            I live next door to a unit that has recently sold. Over a ten year period, the owner has leased the property to several different tenants. The property  has been continuously managed by the one Real Estate Agent. I took the opportunity to inspect the unit at a recent open inspection and was appalled at the property’s condition. In addition to a small part of the hall ceiling falling in, most of the rooms had extensive water damage from the common property deck above. The Real Estate Agent’s selling spiel was that the damage was the responsibility of the Owners Corporation and the new owner would not have to pay for the repairs. My question is given that the property has been managed continuously by the one Real Estate Agent who did not report any damage to the Owners Corporation during the ten years, surely the cost of repairs should not rest entirely with us? What are our options?
            Many thanks,
            Tiaeki

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