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Merry Xmas & Happy New Year Jimmy.I know you like happy endings to problems arising from Strata living so to finally put my experience to rest, on Xmas Eve the drummer's mother left me a note & small gift in my letterbox to say ” a small token for a new start & happy living in 2012″.The mufflers on the drums are working & everyone is happy again.I will acknowledge her gesture & move on.I will still enjoy reading other flat chatters experiences & how they solve their problems.
I plan to let sleeping dogs lie on this one, while the drummer is quiet I don't want to cause problems & as you say, be seen as a trouble maker.It is a matter of principle though, because in the past the EC (prior to my husband becoming a member) targetted myself when family were staying with us for short periods & threatened to fine me for allowing them to park in the visitors spaces.I don't care who parks there as we have plenty of spaces, I feel if one owner or tenant is allowed to do it then it should be the same for everyone, not a select few.
Two months down the track & still heavenly peace & quiet. Saw the Secretary of the EC passing by my Townhouse yesterday so asked about her comment of not being ignored (also two months ago) but why no-one had bothered to fill me in on why the drummer is quiet.Apparantly the mother spoke with our local council & they suggested mufflers for the drums which are being used,supposedly the mother bought them a week before the EC voted on the Notice to Comply but didn't tell anyone so she didn't “ïnfluence their vote”They all voted no except my husband anyway.I am happy as long as I don't hear the drums, I don't know why the mother didn't do this at the start when I first approached her in May.Thank you again for your help.
Just another comment to show what a laugh our EC have become, the Drummers mother & boyfriend have three cars between them, she parks hers in the garage & the other two in the visitors car spaces near her Townhouse.At the last AGM she also joined the EC with her friends, so how they think the EC can enforce the no parking in visitors spaces to other owners & tenants now is beyond me.
Saw your weekly paper column at the weekend, thanks for the ongoing support.The drumming seems to have stopped since my last rant via email at the EC, and as I predicted the drummers mother is now on the EC ( got herself elected at the AGM IN July)with all the previous members (her friends) as well as my husband, (can't wait for the first EC meeting to be convened.)The Secretary of the EC approached me in the street last week & said” don't think you have been ignored but I didn't have the keys to the EC mailbox for months & only just found your letters the other day” Still waiting to hear what they have to say for themselves, & why the drumming seems to have stopped, maybe I should give them a copy of your weekend column to read & ask for their comments.As an owner but not a member of the EC can I attend the EC meetings?Do I have to ask permission or just turn up?
Thank you, I am glad to have some support, when I replied to the Strata manager this morning I asked him why the EC & him were the only ones that think the by-Law is not being breached & is not a Strata Issue, he hasn't bothered to reply.Simone from TEYS Lawyers has been advising me as well, she has emailed me information today on mediation & CTTT & offered a fee proposal for me to consider before engaging their services.I am enjoying peace & quiet at the moment, the drummer & his mates are on school holidays & must have gone away, but I am sure once he returns & knows he has the support of the EC, practice will start again.To be continued…..
Well, officially I have been shut down by the EC & the Strata manager, EC voted no to issuing the Notice to Comply, when I asked for an explanation from them at the AGM this Thursday (14th), Strata Manager said it is too late to add any motions & even though I have had other advice the matter is not a Strata issue but a problem between two owners,& I should seek mediation at Fair Trading.I emailed the EC still requesting an explanation as to why practicing drums & guitars by teenagers without adult supervision in a Townhouse garage is not breaching the Noise by-Law so I can show Fair Trading, CTTT, District Court & our local Council why I can't pursue it under Strata Laws.So I guess I am in for the long haul now, will let you know how I go over the next weeks/months?
I agree with you about changing to Strata living, your life is no longer your own but governed by whoever is on the Executive Committee, if you are interested read my posts under “Drummer Driving me Mad”.I would never live like this again, in fact, I am seriously thinking of selling because of the lack of support from little people with alot of power.
Things have moved on since my last post.I emailed a copy of Simone from TEYS lawyers reply to me stating the EC should issue a Notice to Comply to the Strata manager, he finally convened a meeting of the EC at his office on Tuesday 5th July at 10.00am but advised them they don't have to attend, just drop their vote into his office before Tuesday (he emailed the paperwork last Tueasday to the EC).One of the drummers mothers friends on the EC showed her the contents of the Notice to Comply on the night the paperwork arrived(I had to supply the information to complete the Notice to Comply)The mother immediately sent emails to the Strata Manager complaining I was telling lies & being spiteful to her son by trying to shut him down permanently.I was stopping a traditional past-time of a growing adolescent, & it was a serious matter that I was trying to stop him playing his musical instrument.The Strata manager sent a copy of her emails to the EC (I know this because my husband is a member) & I requested a right of reply which the Strata manager also fowarded to the EC.I examined all the paper work that he sent to the EC in the Notice to Comply& noticed some documents were missing, I emailed them to the Strata manager & asked him to include them but he told me the drummers mother does not have the luxury that I do to see the all the paperwork (what a joke when her friends were showing her).He said the EC had enough information now & I was to leave them to make their decision tomorrow.I couldn't ask for a site visit at the weekend then but not surprsingly, the drummer & guitars have been quiet since the Notice to Comply paperwork arrived last Tuesday.
I am not expecting a vote in my favour tomorrow except for my husband so am I allowed to ask the EC to explain why they don't think the Noise By-Law is being breached when drumming & guitar practice takes place on a regular basis in the garge of my neighbours townhouse.Is my next step CTTT or Fair Trading?My local council sent her a letter after I contacted them requesting her to take appropriate action to reduce the noise but I don't know exactly what they said to her.
I will also film & record the practice when it starts up again so I have sound to back up my complaint.I have started my log on practice times.
Anthing else I should be doing before the next step ?
Tried a few of your suggestions heres the latest:
1. Contacted the Strata Manager again after Fair Trading told me they can't define the Noise By-Law either but if I feel my peaceful enjoyment is being interfered with I should ask the SM to issue A Notice to Comply to the other owner.SM responded with “ask Fair Trading for mediation” so I forwarded SM this morning an email reply from one of the Strata lawyers at TEYS stating Executive Committe should ask SM to issue the Notice, so I asked SM again to please contact the EC to issue the notice.Told SM Fair Trading mediation will take forever & this situation is causing me great stress & impacts on my home life so I want a solution as soon as possible.
2. Contacted our local council & they replied they can act on my behalf even if the noise is within their guidelines so I asked them to please do that.
Will keep you updated on my progress.
Thank you for all your help.I will start with the diary.
In regards to other neighbours hearing the noise, the mother stated in one of her letters to me that she “canvassed other neighbours as they passed by her place & they did not find the noise offensive”I replied that if I only had to pass by I wouldn't find the noise offensive either & to ask them again if they had to live with it 7 days a week.My Townhouse is directly across the driveway from her garage & the noise comes straight at my windows & doors.My husband is one of the executive committee, does he have to step away from the committee?
Can you recommend a strata lawyer specialist?
The original poster, now going under the handle “Snared” was asked to reproduce the by-law relating to noise.
Our by-law on noise is the standard one as follows:
“An owner or occupier of a lot must not create any noise on a lot or the common property likely to interfere with the peaceful enjoyment of the owner or occupier of another lot or of any person lawfully using common property.”
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