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  • in reply to: Request for strata report denied #49597
    deliria1
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      Thanks so much Jimmy, this information is really, really helpful.

       

      deliria1
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        There has been a further development to this.

        After the Strata Manager (chairperson}  was challenged about the validity of the two co-owners self nominating on the night of the AGM,  a few days later he produced  two copies (one for each of these owners) of the ‘2019 pre AGM survey’ that was sent to all owners asking various questions such as ‘would you attend meetings via video conferencing’ and ‘would you like the OC to bulk tender services’ etc. Amongst all these survey questions was a question-

        ‘Would you like to nominate yourself or another person for election to the Strata Committee for your lot at the next A.G.M.?(Please circle YES or NO). Note: Only 1 owner may be nominated for each lot. If YES, the name of the nominee;’

        The survey form had no place to write the name of the nominator nor did it require a signature.

        I will add that on the night of the AGM he said that he had received no pre-AGM nominations. One woman (nomination not in doubt) corrected him and said she had sent through her nomination with her survey, but no-one else said they had.

        I believe these randomly produced surveys, which took a few days to ‘find’ don’t provide any more clarity around who did the nomination as they are not dated nor signed by anyone so could still be a self nomination. They also could have been sent through after the AGM for all we know.

        The secretary of the SC seems to be happy with chairperson’s explanation saying ‘it is too difficult to pursue and he does not want to rock the boat.’ Personally I don’t think that is an acceptable reason.

        Also, the minutes of the meeting indicate that the Owners were asked to vote on the number of SC members and it was decided on 7. We were not asked to vote on a number, the chairperson just asked for nominations and 8 people nominated and were elected. A day after the AGM one newly elected SC member was told her nomination was not valid as she is not an owner and was not nominated by an owner. The minutes do not reflect what happened on the night at all.

        What can be done about this mess of an AGM and these dubious SC nominations?

        deliria1
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          Thanks very much Jimmy. This comprehensive response is most helpful.

          deliria1
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            I wonder if anything at all can be done in these situations. We live in a large apartment complex that has about 12 visitor parking spaces, mostly taken up by residents.

            Two of the biggest offenders are members of the SC who park their first car in their parking spot & their second car in the visitor parking.  I cannot tell you the number of times I have complained to our Strata Manager & our Building Manager, all to no avail – these SC members feel it is their right. I can understand why other owners do it, as they see SC members doing it.

            We have a mob that we pay to come and issue fines to people parking in the visitor parking without a valid ticket or for over 4 hours – however, they don’t show up very often & when they do, they never fine the two SC members, so clearly the SC members have struck some sort of deal with them.

            Other owners just view an $88 occasional fine as the price they pay for off street parking.

            Meanwhile visitors have nowhere to park.

            The OC gets nothing from this arrangement, the fines collected go to the parking people and we pay $500 a month to a company that barely shows up and only fines certain people, while letting others do as they like. 

            I have suggested we dump them and put the $6000 a year we pay them to better use and make the visitor parking a case of first in, best dressed – at least it would be fairer. 

            The SC won’t agree to this though, of course not – they don’t want to lose their free parking!!

            deliria1
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              The apartments weren’t all roughly sold at the same time, this was a staged development & some units were sold up to two years apart. Those that got in early got the best prices (while developer was still securing finance) – those that came in later paid more as the developer raised the prices.

              However, by the time the Strata Plan was registered all apartments had been sold and it was at that point I believe a valuer should have been brought in to value the apartments – at this time the market value would have been near identical. Instead the developer sent a list of sale prices to the surveyor and the UEs were based on these figures.

              I did raise this apparent discrepancy with my strata manager 6 months after we settled and he just blew it off and said it would cost the OC way too much to change the entitlements & there is no way a majority would agree. At that point I was new to strata and just didn’t want to rock the boat.

              We have since found out (as Whale mentions above), that if we had resolved this before two years we could have just had the valuations done & sent the certificate to NSW Land & Property this would have been a much cheaper prospect. Clearly our Strata Manager should have been aware of this.

              This is being raised at the next EC, and if the valuations were done on sale price then everyone in the complex is affected, either negatively or positively. I guess the vote on this at the AGM will depend on whether there are more of us negatively affected that positively – and also whether, as you say, it is worth the financial outlay.

              I have been told that the UE doesn’t only determine your levies but also impacts your Land/Council/Water rates. 

              deliria1
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                Further to this.

                We have now been told by the “valuer” of our complex that an appropriate method is to base Unit Entitlement on “Sales Price.” Which is apparently what he did.

                In all my research I have found nothing that states that UoE is based on the “sale price” of “off the plan” units.

                I am sure everyone on this forum is aware of how selling ‘off the plan’ works.

                Initially the developer may offer apartments at a lower price to attract buyers and therefore secure finance. Once finance is secured and with the advent of time, prices on the remaining apartments rise.

                This is what happened with our complex, those that bought earlier got them for cheaper & those of us who came in later paid more. Not because our apartments were bigger or better or any different – only because time had passed and real estate generally increases with the advent of time.

                 

                However, even those that bought later, bought well in advance of building commencing, and at least 15 months before the Strata Plan was registered. By the time the Strata Plan was registered the market value of all apartments would have been the identical (except for those without parking and possibly those with one less common wall). They are all on the ground floor with the same outlook.

                 

                How can it possibly be deemed fair to base Unit Entitlements on the sale price? The current market values of these apartments as empty shells would be identical.

                 

                Page 7 of the NSW Land & Property Information’s booklet Strata Plan Fast Facts, states the following;

                The unit entitlements should be based upon the market value of the lots at the date of registration of the strata plan. Attention is drawn to section 183 Strata Schemes Management Act 1996

                 

                Does anyone have any experience of UoEs being based on sale price rather than market value?

                 

                Many thanks

                 

                 

                 

                 

                in reply to: Changes to the Home Building Act #22896
                deliria1
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                  Thanks Whale, I guess we’re stuffed then.

                  Can you imagine if you bought a car with a five year warranty and then after two years the manufacturer called you and said “we have just decided to drop our warranty to two years and we are doing so retrospectively, so just calling to let you know your warranty if up.”

                  It is incomprehensible that a change like this can be retrospective, if they had brought in the 2% developer bond at the same time, would that have been retrospective? I think not!

                  in reply to: Privacy Screens #20683
                  deliria1
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                    Thanks Whale, sage advice indeed!

                    in reply to: Privacy Screens #20666
                    deliria1
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                      Thanks for your responses. The strata manager did speak to the lot owner & after much tears & anger, the screens were removed.

                      What this has done for neighbourly relations however, is another matter entirely.

                      in reply to: Privacy Screens #20650
                      deliria1
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                        I spoke to the Strata Manager and while I am not sure if an SBL was registered pertaining to these screens – the minutes of the AGM indicate that the metal screen installed by some residents set the precedent & all requests for privacy screens must follow this design.

                         

                         

                        in reply to: appointment of strata manager #17718
                        deliria1
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                          I recently moved into my off the plan apartment. In our case the developer had the strata mangemant company in place and at our first AGM (a month after moving in), it was up to the owners to decide whether to keep them or change. We decided to keep them for the first 12 mnths to see how they perform.

                          in reply to: ok for some, but not others…. #17679
                          deliria1
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                            as mentioned below we would like to install metal privacy screens (at our cost & exempting the OC of all responsibility) to our front terrace, raising the height to about 1.8m. We have employed a landscape design company to up with a design. The design they have come up with exists elsewhere in the development so suits the aesthetic perfectly. 

                            The developer, who is an EC member, does not want to allow this claiming we want to change the architectural fabric of the building, as I pointed out to him, the metal screen design exists elsewhere in the development, so we are not changing the architectural fabric, we are actually referencing it.

                            stupidly our EC is made up of more investors than owner/occupiers and the other investors tend to follow his lead, thinking that as ‘the developer’ he knows what is best for the building.

                            The developer has now agreed to a request for a large awning from another ground floor apartment, this awning will be bolted onto the common wall of the terrace, will be 3.5m wide and 3m long – yet somehow this awning does not change the architectural fabric of the building.

                            Prior to settlement, we had a long legal battle with this developer over a contract issue, much to his dismay, he was forced to honour the contract, which ended up costing him a fair bit of money. I believe his refusal to even consider the privacy screens comes from his contempt towards me. he can barely be civil towards me. he is rude and abrupt in person & via email. 

                            If I feel his constant refusal to even consider anything I put forward to the EC is personal, is there an avenue where I can pursue this?

                            Thanks

                            in reply to: ok for some, but not others…. #17660
                            deliria1
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                              ….the terrace wall height was a special condition placed in our contract – we were so busy fighting them on a contract issue relating to our ceiling that we didn’t pick up on this until after settlement.

                              deliria1
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                                Thanks.

                                Indeed the developer has said 72 square metres internally & 17 metres externally – 89 square metres all up.

                                The strata plan says the lot is 91 square metres for apartment & courtyard & 105 square metres including parking.

                                Measuring room by room, wall to wall I only get a total of 63 square metres – but if they don’t usually count the walls, then I guess it makes sense.

                                So does that mean if an apartment is advertised as 60 sqm internally, it most likely only has around 52 square metres of actual usable floor space?

                                in reply to: Removing Paint from a ceiling #16991
                                deliria1
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                                  Thanks Everyone, for all your responses. It is much appreciated.

                                  I will keep you posted on the outcome.

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