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  • in reply to: Lazy landlord/lazy real estate agent #54412
    Joe50
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      Feb 2021 update,

      My tribunal hearing is scheduled for early June-2021. As since the directions hearing I now have an  accoustic consultant and bookings he heavily booked. Then the respondent(landlord or owner) has four wks to reply.

      The problem is the here and now with the tenants. The strata this wk said they won’t mediate when there is a dispute of this nature when it’s only between two neighbours, as opposed to a dispute if multiple neighbours were complaining about one neighbour Eg a party animal neighbour, who has house parties all the time…

      It was disappointing the strata’s response, but probably predictable.. So these tenants are effectively continuing slamming the doors in there unit(and front door of there unit) as much as they like with no enforcement done, hence me being powerless to stop them… It’s all very frustrating.. With the front Lot doors, that is an OC matter, and I will table an item on the agenda for the next meeting in April-2021… But yes it’s very frustrating as it’s so time consuming, to actually solve the noise problem Eg a waiting game. The accoustic report will be comprehensive. I hope from that report, that NCAT rules in my favour and orders the owner(my upstairs neighbour), to make internal accoustic adjustments to his flooring(wood floors), and internal doors. Any ideas to mediate with the current tenants would be welcomed. Community justice mediation they would have no interest in I doubt(young guys early 20’s who like to party, I doubt they even heard of CJM).
      But yeah a nightmare situation with the noise going on continuously and the strata refusing to mediate…

      in reply to: Lazy landlord/lazy real estate agent #54184
      Joe50
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        There is no overreaching, as the tenants have breached the buildings by laws about noise and peaceful enjoyment multiple times.

        Jimmy T, obviously by goal is for the impact noise to be significantly reduced as it’s transmitting down into my apartment. And  I want it to stop, and is it’s not common property noise, in my view the Landlord above is responsible to stop the noise Eg accoustic adjustments etc. But ty for the web link and yeah I will probably definitely be getting legal advice after the directions hearing. But I want the noise to end, I just hope NCAT/or a court enforce that the noise must end due to my valid complaints Eg by law breaches/nuisance/peaceful enjoyment etc…

        in reply to: Lazy landlord/lazy real estate agent #54165
        Joe50
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          Update Jan-2021(NSW):

          NCAT is now getting involved in my dispute against the owner(and his tenants).

          NCAT has scheduled a “Directions Hearing” next week between myself vs owner of apartment above me.

          Directions hearings seem a bit confusing to me, but it’s i think concerned with matters when one has to establish the facts then schedule a tribunal date, Im not sure 100% what dierections hearings mean but anyway.

           

          What am I seeking:

          1) Current tenants be evicted June-2021, when there lease expires(tenants are disposable, as the unit above has always found new tenants fast, as the apartment building is close to sydney CBD)

          2)The apartment owner of that unit above me, then spend money on carpet replacing wood floorboards in lounge room. And carpet underlay be put under the carpet in the unit’s bedrooms. And pads be put on the cubbard doors of the bedroom doors..

          3) A tap test by an accoustic consultant done to assess the impact-noise from the apartment above me(i don’t have a problem with the airborne noise).

           

          I hpe I get the requests I want.

          in reply to: Lazy landlord/lazy real estate agent #51824
          Joe50
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            And when at NCAT is the relevant thing with noise from another Lot(where landlord owner is responsible) , the SP By laws or the NSW strata schemes Act sections and orders Eg 232.
            I didn’t think SP by-laws in such circumstances where important, but rather NSW legislation as that overrides any SP By-Laws I thought…

            in reply to: Lazy landlord/lazy real estate agent #51815
            Joe50
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              I will find out if other noise complaints when preparing my NCAT submission. I have a feeling no as I’m the unit below and have been here for over ten yrs, and strata rolls and strata agencies have changed in that time..

              But now I’m a bit confused who to take to NCAT. As it’s noise from cubbards doors transmitting down into my unit, that I assume would be going through the ceiling wall. Would I be taking the owner of the lot or would I have to take the OC to NCAT? The door slams from the cubbard doors transmit down into my apartment… What I am seeking ultimately is soundproofing of the ceiling walls(my ceiling wall) as the noise is travelling into my apartment. There is no carpet underlay on the floors of there bedroom, I suspect it’s wood as the lounge room in the neighbour above is wood floor.

              in reply to: Lazy landlord/lazy real estate agent #51673
              Joe50
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                August Update(NSW):

                The noise has continued and endless email table tennis between me and Neighbour real estate agent.

                The owner of neighbouring lot has refused mediation at fair trading with me. So NCAT it is I’m applying for.

                ideally, the order I want is for the neighbouring owner to be ordered to put better carpet underlays under the bedroom carpets(this will require uplifting the carpet/removing current underlays/getting accoustic consultant to do a tap test/then put new accoustically better underlays/and new carpet maybe)..

                I hope I win at NCAT, as the noise transmitted into my apartment is unacceptable.

                in reply to: Lazy landlord/lazy real estate agent #51150
                Joe50
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                  Agree with all that. And yes fair trading and maybe NCAT seem the only viable solutions as the noise hasn’t improved…

                  in reply to: Lazy landlord/lazy real estate agent #50921
                  Joe50
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                    Weekend Update July 11th-12th:

                    I’ve had an update on from both my strata/and the Real Estate Agent of the landlord(this matter is NSW):

                    The strata said internal noise is an internal issues(internal doors eg bedroom cubbards/toiet doors etc), and they will only mediate with “Noise matters concerning” common property eg swimming pool/or balcony noise/car park noise etc).

                    They said for internal door noise, “Noise is subjective” and it’s a matter between you vs the neighbouring owner/and owner’s tenants..

                    The real estate agent after much persistence to get an answer has informed me last night that there client(owner of the neighbouring) will not be voluntary make any accoustic adjutments to the unit and will not enter into any voluntary legally binding agreements about making acocustic adjustments and as Lot owner being liable to cover those accoustic adjustments eg underlays/accoustic consultant tests/door seals etc.

                    And they will not message the tenant about a complaint about noise or a breach of the residenantial tenancy act/strata management act etc eg noise/nusiance/peaceful enjoyment.. And if I wanted to take Legal action against both landlord/tenant, that’s up to me but nothing about this Noise matter will be voluntary agreed on..

                    I had a feeling that would be there response as they have dragged my complaint out for about 6 weeks..

                    So when parties act like that, you have no choice and Im gonna have to get “Lawyered up” and spend money taking legal action eg NSW Fair trading/NCAT/ and even court.. And I hope I win, but it will be a long and bitter dispute I have a hunch and potentially expensive for the losing party eg underlays aren’t cheap nor are accosutic consultants fees/tradies fees/or Legal fees etc..

                    I feel like I am now playing the role of the “Hunter” and the “Landlord/Tenant” is playing the role of the Hunted and they will do everything they can to stop me from being legally successful over there them eg delay tactics/no interest in volunary mediation/put up stern resistence to voluntary spend thousands of dollars depite being the liable party etc..

                    I’ve red some cases over the weekend about apartment building noise disputes and all I see is time consuming problem costs$$ , especially the losing party eg legal fees(and sometimes ordered to pay the legal fees of the complaining neighbour)/costs to pay accoustic consultants/and costs to put in noise reduction stuff eg underlays and other accosutic stuff.

                    Joe50

                     

                    in reply to: Lazy landlord/lazy real estate agent #50885
                    Joe50
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                      nugellbags,

                      what you on about no moral or legal obligation, and saying demand reciepts not gonna help. Excess noise is coming from the apartment, and breaching  by laws and disrupting my peaceful enjoyment.

                      And they lied about getting work done, I gave them one week and they still were inactive to fix it, this on top of two weeks before a new tenant. Of course i have  right to verify if reciepts are there as they made a promise and lied to fob me off..

                      I’ve now applied to NSW fair trading for mediation. The owner has zero interest to spend money on accoustic adjustments or tell his cash cow “the tenants$” to stop slamming doors as they don’t want to upset there cash cow the tenants.

                      Of course neighbours have a right to complain about door noise. And as for inspections and reciepts, why wouldn’t i as i don’t trust that Lot owner who has lied and has no intention to do anything voluntarily no matter what I do.

                      And the real estate is totally on the side of there cash cows the tenant and the landlord, as the landlord pays money to his real estate agent. The real estate agent has no interest in playing peacemaker, more like a trade union rep and 100% supporter of the landlord who is paying money to the real estate agency, as opposed to neighbours who are not giving money to the real estate agent.

                      The owner has no interest to make accoustic adjustments and spend his own money unless I take successful legal action against him.. He is uncooperative and not helpful and has no interest in volunatary mediation..

                      Just interested in taking money from the tenant and won’t rock the boat asking the tenant to stop slamming doors and breaching noise by laws while me the neighbour has to suffer from the noise problems.

                      David NG, you can’t breach noise by laws the end. eg door slamming is not acceptable..

                       

                      in reply to: Lazy landlord/lazy real estate agent #50796
                      Joe50
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                        Jimmy T,

                        I don’t trust them to have work carried out. They said they would have handyman come and fix it , but would refuse to confirm dates or timeline or receipts. And no inspection Allowed by me. I don’t trust them as there has been endless email table tennis due to the owners inaction..

                        the real estate agent said  today talk to strata about this matter and there client won’t let me inspect the property eg inspect the cubbard doors, under the guise of Just delaying the inevitable eg “nothing will be done unless you take successful legal action , and I hope you forget about the noise“. The owner above me has no plans to voluntarily spend money to reduce noise unless legally forced to.
                        All the polite steps have failed, and the real estate agent knows as does the owner it’s not a common property matter but an internal Lot matter..

                        Very frustrating having a month wasted playing email table tennis with the neighbour above me not lifting a finger spending anymore to fix this noise problem unless legal forced to…

                        NSW fair trading/and maybe NCAT are inevitable etc. Some people just aren’t flexible and won’t budge to fix a problem and spend there own money$ unless they are legally forced to..

                        I feel like filing a civil suit to
                        against this neighbor for pain and suffering and time wasted due to there inaction and refusal and fix the problem..

                        in reply to: Lazy landlord/lazy real estate agent #50774
                        Joe50
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                          Yes , I’m certain it’s coming from that unit. It’s directly above. The tenants are noisy yes. The owner agreed to via there real estate agent, to get a handyman to put some pads in at requested places . I then emailed them back asking what day will this happen and can I see reciepts. No reply for one for one week. I then message the agent saying I will take there client to fair trading as they haven’t agreed or replied to showing receipts or dates of when a handyman would come in. They replied saying they won’t correspond anymore on this topic and go through the strata. Nothing was ever gonna don’t unless I take em to NSW fair trading. They just strung me along for one month with false promises hoping I buzz off but no intention to spend money .

                          Joe50
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                            Good points. And that’s my point to, I thought no OC strata commitee can passa By-law with 75% support if it is in conflict of NSW strata law..

                            in reply to: Can a by-law prevent Airbnb when the host is present #47044
                            Joe50
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                              I’m in NSW to and I was going to ask about this.. Everyone got a notice in the building saying no short term profit stays are allowed eg like Airbnb.. And the only long term booking or rental stays allowed are 90 days or over(90 day bookings or more allowed using Airbnb) . But I’m not sure the “OC/strata committee/strata agency” in my building has the power to make by-laws restricting owners who are living in there property to restrict owners renting out one of there rooms for less than ninety days..

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