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The SMH article mentions that it would be good if the ECs could talk to each other. My EC thought that was too hard, which isn’t a good precedent. You might have to turn up in person at a meeting to argue your point.
Wade.
Thanks for the very detailed message.
I rather suspect your reasons are largely the same reason property managers are shifting to Direct Debit. Personally, I would never try to short the rent – I’m just not that sort of person. Until I setup an automated payment, I would often be angry with myself for mucking it up!
On the other hand, if I were renting directly off the landlord instead of using an agent, I may be more amenable to use Direct Debit. The truth is that real estate agents are amongst the least trusted of businesses, and Direct Debit requires an inversion of trust compared to other payment methods. This is the primary reason I object to it.
My property manager has assured me several times that I can continue to pay with BPAY. More, I know his own boss knows my stance on this.
There have been no more problems with my payments.
Wade.
The plot thickens.
I spoke to my letting agent. He told me the industry is moving to “a more streamlined system and generally that means direct debit”. Reading between the lines, that means less hassle for the agent to chase rents. I can see why they like that, but it has the problem of a not-highly-trusted industry being on the leading edge of using a payment system that requires them to be trusted. Umm.
On the other hand, my letting agent also said that as far as he was aware the agency weren’t forcing direct debit and, in fact, would continue the existing arrangement for those who won’t go on it. This also explains why letter was a bit ambiguous.
I emailed him my re-statement that I wouldn’t go on direct debit so he has a record. And since this is two twice I’ve told him that, and he seems to be batting for me in this case, it remains to be seen if he gets overruled by his franchise owner.
For now, I’m sticking to DEFT via BPAY.
Wade.
I googled a bit first about Direct Debit and rents and there seem to be an unusually high number of people saying DD is a bad idea. I notice the DFT website stops short of saying “don’t use it”.
The letter suggests that the agent plans on allowing only Direct Debit for paying rents. It doesn’t cost me an additional fee, so far as I know, but only requesting one particular way of paying can’t be legal. Or shouldn’t be.
Sounds like I will be complaining to the DFT one way or the other.
Wade.
24/01/2013 at 1:48 pm in reply to: Are Property Managers supposed to be advocates for the Tenant? #17672Emailed the Principal again. A few hours later, I got a call from the General Manager. He tells me he has taken to task the Property Manager and the guy I was emailing that they have reason to not reply in a timely manner. He also assures me that this will not be a problem again.
I think that would be counted as a win.
Wade.
24/01/2013 at 11:59 am in reply to: Are Property Managers supposed to be advocates for the Tenant? #17670Hmm. I’ve raised a complaint with the principal at the agency where he works. Haven’t heard back from them yet; I have a suspicion they think I’ll go away if I get ignored. But you’re right: he’s more the Letting Agent than a Property Manager.
Never thought of contacting the owner. Since I’m supposed to go through the Letting Agent, that could be a problem.
He has nothing to do with the EC and only when I pushed him did he say I should be talking to Strata directly. I see this as evidence that he doesn’t see his role as any sort of advocate for me, the tenant, to anyone else.
Wade.
I’d like to note that from the Tenants’ POV, Property Managers can also be useless (except when signing a lease) and unresponsive (except when there is rent owing).
Since they are effectively mediators, representing the Tenant to the Landlord and vice-versa, perhaps they should be required to have proper training?
Wade.
An update.
The Property Manager returned my call. It turns out that there were a few deadlines that collided. The settlement for the sale of my flat, an otherwise unrelated incident, was late. The new owner was a little tardy in getting the new management agreement back. The Property Manager assumed that Australia Post would deliver the letters in one day. :-/
He acknowledged that the situation didn't look good and wasn't handled the best. He assured me that it absolutely wouldn't be a problem to use the old account until I had the new details. And also I wasn't the only one in that situation.
And it took some pushing but he rather reluctantly kind-of admitted that they could do better next time (though he didn't seem to grasp the idea of a week's notice to tenants for changing the rent account). It wasn't the outcome I really wanted. But I think he understood it made both new and old agents look pretty clumsy.
Wade.
Austman said:
Would it be possible to post version one of the notes here (minus names/places etc of course)? I think it's a tricky exercise but can see the merits. I'm quite sure our noisy neighbour is not realising the problems he is causing others.
Here is what I posted on the noticeboard for the second problem:
Some unit in this stairwell is leaving their exhaust fan on all night. Please be considerate of your neighbours. The sound of it carries a very long way at night. Thank you.
It was handwritten in a thick marker. Within a day, some had scratched out “Some unit” and written in the offending Unit number. About 4 days later, I write on the bottom in a different colour: “Yeah: this means PLEASE DON'T”.
The fan still runs for hours some evenings, but almost never past midnight.
I should add that the notes were very carefully worded and took me a few days to think about. The key was to unambigiuously address the adverse effects of the noise, not to criticise the people making the noise. I didn't want any reason for them to take offense and to say “screw you, I'll do what I like” but rather to say “oh, I never realized I was doing that, how terrible”.
I spoke to my Property Manager and we both realized that I can't be the only one with this problem, so it's best to refer to Strata. Especially as Strata are in the middle of a (rather slow) security and safety upgrade.
The meters are in an unlocked cupboard in a foyer. I have access because I have a building system key. But how do Energy Australia get access? That's for Strata to sort out. 🙂
Wade.
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