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  • in reply to: Bin laden lady #12497
    struggler
    Flatchatter

      We have a bin roster in our complex for the shared bins.  We never used to.  It used to be the good old volunteers on the EC that made sure the bins went out week after week.  And because this, like so many things, was considered someone elses problem/responsibility by the residents in this complex, they started to dump bags of rubbish in the bin area, dump cardboard boxes on top of empty recycling bins and not even bother to wrap or contain rubbish placed in the bins, including used nappies which lead to human waste matter in through the bins.  And with that came the maggots (the bins are in the open, exposed the weather and hot blazing sun)  But who cared, after all, the garbage bin fairy took care of all that.

      Then we introduced the bin roster.  Now the bin area was the responsibility of everybody.  Including the cleaning up, putting away, inhaling etc.  All of a sudden, everything went into bins, rubbish was wrapped, cardboard boxes were dismantled and folded.   The bin area (which everyone has to walk/drive past everyday and a number of residences have to look over) was tidy

      We had thought of employing someone to take the bins out.  But we fear the problem would resurface as again it would be someone elses problem.   We do get the bins professionally cleaned throughout the year but bins are not as gross as they once were when unwrapped unhygienic rubbish was placed in and around there.

      There are a couple of residents who are not physically able to take all the bins out for the complex.  But the bin angels still exist to help those who can't do it themselves.

      in reply to: Use of common area to park #12485
      struggler
      Flatchatter

        So someone person does the wrong thing by parking on common property and someone else has to pay?  Not only breaking the by law “an owners or occupier…must not park or stand….vehicle on common property”  but also “An owner or occupier much not damange any lawn….”.   So I suippose when the lawn does off, someone else can pay for that too.

        If the car wasn't parked where it shouldn't, then the vehicle wouldn't have had to negotiate in reverse to get out of there and would not have knocked the  mirror.

        If someone pays for (whether by rent or purchase) a place with one garage/car spot/parking bay, then they have only paid for one car.  Why should they expect to get another parking spot for free?  And why should other residents have to make changes to accomodate?

        In this complex we have at least 4 residences that have more cars than garages (including one resident that has 4 cars and one garage), another 4 that have double garages put would prefer to use half their garage for something else (office, gym, storage, drying washing)  They all want to park on common property.  They all want extra parking for free .  And so would I.  But I only pay for a place that has parking for one car.

        in reply to: Tenants on ECs #12484
        struggler
        Flatchatter

          On that point, can I nominate a tenant in this complex to be on the EC?  There is a tenant here who takes great pride, not only in his property but in the complex in genenral.  If there is something to be done, whether picking up papers flying down the driveway or clearing up branches in the driveway or cutting back branches that are blocking access, he goes back to his place, get the equipment he needs and does it.  The owners here, however, just step over anything they find and don't report any problems.

          I don't know if he would be interested in doing it but he would do a great job, would not be afraid to speak up or knock on a door and tell someone to pull their head in.  And he would do it all calmly too!

          struggler
          Flatchatter

            Am tired of strata too!  Am struggling to tolerate it!  I dread what I will find each new day – what matter will have to be chased up by the “moron du jour”.

            We have someone on the committee who self nomiated and is the rescipient of numerous notices to comply before getting onto the committee and we were told that you cannot object to this person being on.  This person has continued to breach by laws and has sent out a notice to another resident for something that this person was doing as well! 

            I believe being found in breach of should result in an immediate removal from a committee (no votes from owners thanks – our owners don't respond to voting on anything but 100% of them whinge).  A person should be free of any breach of any kind for a period of time.  How can you ensure by laws are followed if you don't do it yourself?  I also think that someone buying into strata (or about to rent in strata) should have to sign a document that yes they understand about by laws, they understand that you can't break them, that they understand they can't do whatever they want in strata. 

            I suggested to our EC some time ago, when the first “offender” moved into our complex that we should give any new resident an IQ test first.  They laughed saying that the 6 of us would be very lonely here!  With the number of “breachers” now in the complex – they aren't laughing anymore.

            in reply to: Private air-con on common property #12464
            struggler
            Flatchatter

              We also have owners who have installed air conditioning units with either units or conduit for power on common property (ie outside of the units).  We also have external gas water heaters on the exterior (common property) walls within the courtyards of each unit.  Does this mean that the OC is responsible for replacing them as well?  This is of concern as the water heaters are now at the end of their usuable life (11 years).  This OC has not covered the replacement of these heaters in levies collected over the years.  To pay for them would almost certainly wipe us out financially as there are so many items that need attending to as this complex ages.

              Call us niave but the EC and OC have always considered the water heaters as an owners responsibility to maintain and replace (with whatever water heating system they wish).  We have kept the levies low with the understanding that the OC covers the “big” things (roof, exterior painting, driveway, gutters, windows, gardens) and owners cover and maintain other items as needed.  We would have to increase our levies and owners have indicated that they do not wish this to happen and infact would sell up if it did happen!

              Have an AGM coming up.  Do we need to consider bylaws for everything?  In my complex, owners want to do whatever they want without notification or permission and yet expect the OC to pick up the pieces and pay for it when it all comes apart.  How can you control it?

              in reply to: Decisions by Exec Committee Members #12461
              struggler
              Flatchatter
              Chat-starter

                Further to my above post, should the committee not allow or give permission for a change to my deck (should they consider it common property) could I apply NSW Strata Schemes By Law No. 5 referring to Damage to Common Property where it states (3) this bylaw does not prevent an owner or person authorised by an owner from installing: (b) any screen or other device to prevent entry of animals or insects on the lot?

                As I have said, I wish to make the deck  more accessible for termite/pest inspections and for checking adequate drainage under the deck.  I no not wish to change the size nor change it from decking materials.  This deck is not accessible nor visible to common property.  Inspections for termites in this complex is the responsibility of each individual owner and is a requirement to carry this out every year.

                in reply to: Can they ban the bicycle? #12352
                struggler
                Flatchatter

                  Are you buying into an apartment complex?  Perhaps this amendment came about because people would wheel their bikes in and leave marks along corridors or leave bikes outside in corridors, take up space in lifts.

                  Generally I have found that amendments to bylaws come about to  protect a complex from repairs/upkeep from residents thinking they don't need to take care because someone else will pay for it!

                  There would have to be a reason for it – a result of events that have taken place previously.  Perhaps you should enquire further.

                  in reply to: tenants storing bikes on common property #12350
                  struggler
                  Flatchatter

                    We have had a constant battle regarding residents (owners and tenants alike) using common property for extra space.  We have had bikes, prams, building materials, soil, bricks, garbage and of course the old washing lines/drying racks (in the driveway mind you not on balconies).  And even cars parked outside of garages in the narrow driveway.  This ontop of the always present use of visitors car spots.  We sent out a letter in plain english, not the strata bylaw language.  It stated that when you step out of your front door, that is common property.  When you step out of your garage into the driveway, that is common property.  Yet still people persist.  One could understand if it were a new resident not aware, but it is those who have received the notice time and time again.

                    I believe that people know all the hoops the EC has to go through to get any action done.  So they behave themselves then get back at it.  Would be great if the EC could get items removed with adequate notice to resident in question.  I personally feel like giving up.  If people want to live in a place that looks like a dump, then so be it.

                    But at least you are doing the right thing in writing to the tenant, and doing it through the managing agent so there is a record of communication.  At least in this way, should there be an incident with these bikes (ie someone falls/trips over them) you can show that you have done your best at notifying and asking them to comply. 

                    This is what concerns me when members of my EC will not agree to write to residents regarding common property issues, preferring to “just talk” to them.  With no evidence that the committee has done their duty of care in upholding the bylaws and protecting the complex and its residents against any claim made due to injury of “illegally” stored items on common property makes me wonder if the EC could be held liable for not acting.

                    in reply to: Problem tenants #12340
                    struggler
                    Flatchatter

                      Noise is always going to be a problem in some what in high/medium density living.  You can't help hearing something when someone is on the other side of the wall.  But it is hard for the EC to step in when they haven't witnessed or heard it themselves.  What is annoying noise for one may not be that annoying for others.

                      I worked with someone who complained if his neighbour had a few friends over in the afternoon for a drink.  I have kids next door to me and they do make noise now and again.  But my neighbours do not play music late at night or make a habit out of making noise.  It is just the occasional noises of life that I hear.  And while that is fine by me, it may not be fine for someone else.

                      If these tenants are making noise regularly, could you ask the committee if you can contact them when they are noisy so they can hear for themselves?  Perhaps ring a couple of them to come in?  Could you record the noise? 

                      Another way, that this complex has found very effective in the past, is to ask the EC to write to all residents with something like “It is necessary to remindi all residents that making enough noise to disturb neighbours is a breach of strata by laws”.  Could also mention fines may be imposed.  I have been told that breaching strata by laws is a reason to cancel a lease.  In these tough rental times, anyone renting and reading that may keep themselves in check.  We send notices like that out on a regular basis, to all residents, when one or two start to take liberties in the complex.  We find that reminding all residents not only works on the offenders, but reminds the others not to start.

                      in reply to: No-name shame #12337
                      struggler
                      Flatchatter

                        When we have a problem such as driving fast in the driveway, we write a “Notice to all Residents” sent via the managing agent.  In this way, we remind all residents of this rule (and whatever other rule is broken).  No names, no numbers, just a reminder to all.  If you just notified the one, someone else will just step into their place!  Have only mentioned unit nos when common property has been damaged/changed and  even then only when the resident has not complied with request to recitify.  And then we sent a notice out to all regarding common property.

                        in reply to: Damp issue #12336
                        struggler
                        Flatchatter

                          Our managing agent has always told us that the EC/OC has a responsibility to send someone out to inspect a problem to see where it is coming from and therefore who is responsible (owner or OC).  Unless the chairperson of your committee is a trained professional, how can he determine where the problem comes from?

                          We had a by-law drawn up last year regarding shower recesses, bathrooms and internal plumbing to protect the complex from residents who allow a plumbing problem to become a major problem because then someone else pays for it.  Have had clogged drains resulting in overflowing.  Managing agent said it was EC responsibility to arrange inspection of everyones drains twice a year! Our by-law emphasises that any problems stemming from common property (water mains, sewerage and pipes that go between townhouses) remain the responsibility of the owners corp.

                          I would have though that your managing agent would arrange and pay for a plumber to make a determination of this damp problem.

                          in reply to: No-name shame #12306
                          struggler
                          Flatchatter

                            If a resident makes a situation known to the EC about a resident being in breach of and the EC verifies it, then why have to put a name to it?  I agree with a previous comment that the type of person who continually breaks by-laws is the type of person to take revenge.

                            I have a friend who has complained in her complex and she has been harrassed and has had her car parked in so she cannot get to work.  And of course, she can't get the car towed because it is private property can't call the police and the DFT won't let you tow unless it is agreed upon by all owners.

                            If a complaint can be verified (ie a resident can be seen to be in breach of such as misuse/destruction of common property) then one should be able to tell the committee and let them take action.  I have no problem with the “it has come to the notice of the committee” letter.  But then again, I abide by the strata by-laws. 

                            I moved into strata for the protection I thought it gave me.  But there seems to be no way to address those who do not do the right thing.  Can't you leave anonymous tip offs for the police about a situation?  But you can't tip off the EC about a situation?  The police then have to go and verify any wrongdoing before acting.  Can't the EC verify then act? I Can't wait to get out of strata!  There is no protection for those who do the right thing.  The wrong doers plead harrassment.  Don't do the wrong thing – no complaints!  And the more people get away with doing wrong, with no one game to point it out, then the more people will do wrong. 

                            in reply to: Newbies #12282
                            struggler
                            Flatchatter

                              It is good to check carefully before buying into strata.  Many people living in strata think that the owners corp pays for everything.  I know of someone who lives in villas in Sans Souci and they had no money in the bank.  The reason – they had many elderly people living there and the owners corp had always paid for everything.  So when a tap dripped, the OC paid for the washer, if the key didn't work in the lock the OC paid for it.  And with the complex aging, they had to pay more.  And the elderly owners cannot afford an increase in levies let alone any special levies.

                              Look in the SMH Domain apartments section.  I think it is page 5 that has info on different strata units for sale and lists their levies.  You can get a fair idea of what “average” is for different types of units.  Low levies look good (especially in new complexes) but there is usually not be enough money going into the bank.  And with high levies, generally I have found that they cover more “things” around the complex and more common property (ie pool, movie theatre room, lift etc).

                              An old complex with low levies and not much money in the bank equals special levies ahead, and there has to be increases.  You mention that the strata fees for the units you inspected were $420 – am assuming that you meant levies.  I personally would say this was in the low average price range for southern Sydney for two bedroom villa.  Though in an older unit, with more wear, tear and repairs, it probably should be a bit more.  If you take the amount in the sinking fund and divide by the number of units – from your information of the units you inspected there is only a couple of hundred dollars for each unit!  With tradies  costing $100 for call out, would only take a few problems to considerably reduce that balance!

                              Our complex has at the moment over $2,000 per unit (complex 10 years old) Our levies are considered low/average.  Our OC does not cover “everything”. 

                              Having said all that, am looking for a little house to get out of strata myself!

                              in reply to: EC Member Behaviour #12281
                              struggler
                              Flatchatter
                              Chat-starter

                                I approached the EC members about writing to the managing agent about this EC member who is in breach of by laws (has a mound of “stuff” piled up in the driveway for 11 days now – trip hazard, car hazard and may cause damage to the driveway surface all of which I have pointed out to EC!).  Other  EC member did not want to write but just want to talk to the owner about this!  And now I know why.  I have just discovered this EC member has also breached a by-law during this same time period!

                                I am so over strata.  No-one takes by laws seriously, everyone thinks “its just me breaking it so its OK”.  I am going to the bank to find out how much I can borrow to get out of strata.  In the meantime I am going to resign from the EC and break a few by-laws myself (just the “small” ones that everyone seems to think is OK – not changing or damaging anything).  What can they say to me?  I have proof that they did not act on other matters that I raised to them.  They don't have proof of anything they have done to rectify anything if they just want to “talk”.

                                Must go – have some junk in my garage taking up room.  Will be much better stored on the common area driveway till I decide to get rid of it!  If it is OK for one……..

                                in reply to: Anonymous complaints #12271
                                struggler
                                Flatchatter

                                  When we act on a matter in this complex (after we have verified details) we do leave a note to the resident in question.  We do not do this via the managing agent.  Right or wrong, we actually like to give residents a chance.  If they park in visitors spots once, we don't act.  If there is a pattern of parking, then we leave them a note with dates.  We have always felt that in this way they don't get a  bad “record” and have a chance to redeem themselves.  Generally this has worked. 

                                  We have one resident who has broken every strata bylaw and damaged common property and despite doing everything in writing for all these continuing matters, this resident is still continuing with this behaviour.  This resident has harrassed a member of the EC over complaints over these matters (so do you think anyone would put their name to a complaint for this unit).    There is a tremendous amount of written correspondence in this instance all from the EC.  If a matter needs to be taken further then having info in writing is of course necessary.  And continuing bad behaviour needs to be taken further.

                                  So except for this one resident, we have no real record of complaint for anyone else, though notices have been given out to quite a few.   Considering the worst offences of residents has been the parking and garbage/garbage bins, we haven't seen the need to have a endless paper trail if we can get them on the straight and narrow and with their reputation in tact!  If they follow the rules once we “prompt” them (which is what we consider the “it has come to the attention of the committee” notices to be) , then no need to take it further.  If they want to ignore the notices, then we start with the formal correspondence. And with good behaviour, we wipe the slate clean for that resident.

                                  And as far as taking photos, a resident has abused an EC member for taking photos of common property.  Believe other residents don't like it and think it spying!  So no one is comfortable with taking photos.  We just have dates and times, car regos and details.  Only resort to photos when the matter gets to the point of considering action.

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