Forums Strata Committees Current Page

  • Creator
    Topic
  • #11029 Reply | Quote
    Stratademocrats
    Flatchatter

      We own an apartment that has EU garden areas at both front and back. We believe that the back garden area is a riparian corridor and that the D.A. for our complex was based on this riparian corridor remaining untouched. Many of the trees have been tagged for preservation.

      A member of the SC (the Garden Committee Chairman) gave us 12 hours notice that he was going to come in to our EU garden and prune a tree that overhangs our garden. He declared that the area was a fire trail. He also said that he had tree loppers coming in to work on common property and that they shouldn’t have to stoop under the overhanging tree.

      Five months later, the SC has been unable to furnish any proof that there is a fire trail. There is no fire trail or path marked on the plans we received at the time of purchase of our property. We have made a formal legal complaint and have given the SC the information to show that this particular tree is protected. However, at the last SC meeting we were advised that they intended to prune more of the tree.

      We have never denied access for any workers moving through our front or back gardens. However, we do not believe that the SC has the right to prune trees against our wishes.

      I am inserting our relevant By Law :

      41 Exclusive Use By Law
      The Owner for the time being of the lot described in the left hand column of the Schedule below is conferred with the exclusive use and enjoyment of that part of the Common Property identified in the right hand column of the Schedule below for the purpose of a Garden subject to the due observance and performance by the Owner of the following conditions:
      41.1.(a) The Garden must be maintained by the Owner in a state of good order and repair. “Maintained” includes replace, add, reinstate or renew the lawn, annual and perennial plants, shrubs, flowers and palm trees, but excludes planting new trees. The Owner shall be solely responsible for all the costs and expenses of complying with this
      Clause 41.1 (a);
      (b) The Owner must comply with any requirements which may be imposed from time to time by the Owners Corporation or any other competent government agency or authority;
      (c) The Owner agrees and acknowledges, that the Owners Corporation and any
      person authorised by it, with any tools, implements or machinery for the purposes, may enter upon and within the Garden from time to time for the purpose of installing, laying, inspecting, testing, cleansing, repairing, maintaining or renewing any service/s for the Common Property or the Common Property.
      (d) (i) In the event the Owner fails to comply with any of his obligations under this By-Law then the Owners Corporation has the right at any time and from time to time to serve a written notice on the Owner requiring the Owner to comply with that obligation;
      (ii) If the Owner fails to comply with any such notice within a reasonable
      time of service of the notice (having regard to the type of work required) the
      Owners Corporation has the right to carry out the work or perform the act it
      required to have carried out or performed by the notice;
      (lii) The Owner must pay the Owners Corporation within 7 days of a written
      demand from the Owners Corporation all costs incurred by the Owners
      Corporation under this Clause 41.1 (d) for undertaking the work or performing
      the act the Owner has failed to carry out:
      (iv) The Owners Corporation may enter and remain on/in the Garden with
      necessary machinery and equipment for the purposes of exercising the
      Owners Corporation’s rights under this By-Law.
      (e) The Owner shall use the Garden only for the purposes of a Garden. The Owner must obtain approval from the owners corporation to erect or construct any fences or barriers or retaining walls in or around the Garden.
      (f) The Owner shall not use the Garden or do anything so as to cause a nuisance or hazard to any other owner or occupier of the Building including but not limited to not restricting/preventing any other owner or occupier from using any common property pathway or NSW Fire Brigade Egress Path situated within or passing through the Garden.
      (g) The Owner shall not misuse or permit the Garden to be misused.
      (h) The Owner shall not obstruct or damage the Garden.
      (i) The Owner shall ensure that, at all times, no rubbish, litter or other unsightly materials or substances be allowed to accumulate in or upon the Garden.
      (g) The Owner shall ensure that the Garden is kept in a clean and tidy condition at all times.
      (k) In respect of any moneys payable by the Owner under this By-Law, the Owner is liable jointly and severally with any person who was previously liable to pay those moneys in respect of the Lot (such as a previous owner of the Lot) when that Owner became the Owner of the Lot, to pay such part of those moneys as are unpaid when he/she became the Owner of the Lot.
      41.2. Indemnity and Insurance
      The Owner shall indemnify the owners corporation against the following:
      (a) any sums payable by the Owners Corporation by way of increased premiums for effecting and maintaining building damage insurance and/or public liability insurance, where such increase in premiums is the direct or indirect result of the use of the relevant area of the common property;
      (b) any liability for damage to the Garden caused by the Owners Corporation in
      undertaking any work referred to in s 65 of the Strata Schemes Management Act 1996 (‘’the Act”) or in exercising the power of entry for purposes of or related to this By-Law.
      41.3. Definitions
      (a) In this bylaw, unless the content indicates otherwise, the following tenns and expressions are defined to mean:
      (i) “Act” means the Strata Schemes Management Act 1996;
      (ii) “Garden” means that part of the common property identified in the right
      hand column of the Schedule below for each Lot and as drawn and depicted
      on the attached Sketch of Usher & Company Pty Limited dated 11 March 2010
      marked Annexure C, including the lawn, plants, trees and flowers located
      herein but excluding any common property pathway or NSW Fire Brigade
      Egress Path situated within or passing through the Garden;
      (iii) “Lot” means the Lot described in the left hand column of the Schedule
      below;
      (iv) “Owner” means the owner for the time being of the Lot described in the left hand column of the Schedule below;

      41.4. This By-Law shall not be amended, added to or repealed without the written consent of the Owner for the time being of the Lots referred to in the Schedule below.
      41.5.
      (a) The benefit of the use of the Garden by the Owner conferred by this By
      Law is subject to any easements or rights of way that have been created on
      the Common Property and any water, drainage and electricity services that
      pass through or over the Garden.
      (b) The Owners Corporation may enter and remain on/in the Garden with
      necessary machinery and equipments for the purposes of carrying out any
      necessary works in respect of the matters referred to in Clause 41.5 (a).

      So, our questions:

      1. Does the garden committee chairman have the right to enter our EU area at any time on gardening business?

      2.Does the SC have the right to maintain a path through our EU area?

      3. Is there a method to have an individual barred from an owner’s EU area?

    Viewing 4 replies - 1 through 4 (of 4 total)
    • Author
      Replies
    • #26792 Reply
      Lady Penelope
      Flatchatter

        From my understanding of your situation …. I hope this helps answer your questions:

        (1) No. The SC does not have a right to enter your Lot or your EU unless one of the following [s122] provisions apply. Your consent is required if the entry is not an emergency, or unless there is an Order from the Tribunal.

        Power of owners corporation to enter property in order to carry out work

        122 Power of owners corporation to enter property in order to carry out work

         

        (1) An owners corporation for a strata scheme may, by its agents, employees or contractors, enter on any part of the parcel of the scheme for the purpose of carrying out the following work:

        (a) work required or authorised to be carried out by the owners corporation in accordance with this Act (including work relating to window safety devices and rectification work carried out under Part 11),

        (b) work required to be carried out by the owners corporation by a notice given to it by a public authority,

        (c) work required or authorised to be carried out by the owners corporation by an order under this Act.

        (2) An owners corporation for a strata scheme may, by its agents, employees or contractors, enter on any part of the parcel for the purpose of determining whether any work is required to be carried out by the owners corporation in accordance with this Act.

        (3) In an emergency, the owners corporation may enter any part of the parcel for those purposes at any time.

        (4) In a case that is not an emergency, the owners corporation may enter any part of the parcel for those purposes with the consent of any occupier of that part of the parcel or, if the occupier does not consent, in accordance with an order of the Tribunal under this Division.

        (5) A person must not obstruct or hinder an owners corporation in the exercise of its functions under this section.

        Maximum penalty: 5 penalty units.

        (6) An owners corporation is liable for any damage to a lot or any of its contents caused by or arising out of the carrying out of any work, or the exercise of a power of entry, referred to in this section unless the damage arose because the owners corporation was obstructed or hindered.

         (2) No. Unless access is required by the Fire Authority or EPA etc. Proof by way of Notice should be supplied by the SC if access is required. You appear to have a Fire Egress Path on part of your EU. Has your strata scheme had a recent Fire Safety Audit – is that why the SC has become concerned about the egress path? Was a ‘defect’ found at your property that required rectification? A Fire Safety Inspection Audit may require that you trim your vegetation to allow a safe path for egress from the building to remedy any defects but your SC would probably be notified of this via the Inspection, then the SC would notify you.

        Access for fire safety inspections

        123 Access for fire safety inspections

         

        (1) A person authorised to carry out an inspection under the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act 1979 of a building or premises that is part of a strata scheme for purposes relating to fire safety may give a written notice to the owners corporation requiring the owners corporation to ensure that access is provided, within a period or at a time specified in the notice, to the common property of the strata scheme and, if so specified, some or all of the lots in the strata scheme.

        (2) An owners corporation must comply with a requirement of a notice given to the owners corporation under this section.

        Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.

        (3) It is a defence to a prosecution for an offence against this section consisting of a failure to ensure that access is provided to a lot in a strata scheme if the owners corporation establishes that the owner or occupier of the lot refused to allow the access or could not be contacted by the owners corporation.

         (3) I would not think that an individual SC member can be banned from entering a property. Should you feel intimidated by a particular person on the SC then you could request that when the SC enter your property on legitimate grounds and with the required notice under [s122] or [s123] that at least 2 members of the SC be present at all times. 

        #26795 Reply
        Stratademocrats
        Flatchatter
        Chat-starter

          Thanks, Lady P, that is very helpful.

          Just a point of clarification. There is nothing on the plan for our Lot that indicates the presence of a NSW Fire Brigade egress path or any other kind of path. That issue has been raised after the event of our objection to the garden committee chairman trimming the tree over-hanging our EU area.

          #26796 Reply
          Jimmy-T
          Keymaster

            Is it a fire trail or an Asset Protection Zone?

            Have a look here.

            If you want to be alerted when anyone replies to your posts or responds to this topic, please register and login, then you will be able to subscribe to the topic. The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers. NB: Longer threads may spill over to additional pages - look for the numbers on the bottom right, under the last post.
            #26797 Reply
            Lady Penelope
            Flatchatter

              I don’t think that an external fire egress path would necessarily show on a Building Plan …. just as the common property plan does not show fire egress routes through the building. These are generally determined by a Fire Engineer or a Building Surveyor and may be recorded somewhere differently than the Building Plan.

              The SC must have a Fire Egress plan or it would not be mentioned in your By-law. Can you ask your SC for a copy of the plan? From my experience in QLD the fire egress routes should be displayed in a prominent place within your building, along with the meeting place for all persons after they have evacuated the building.

              I would imagine that any branches on a path would need to be trimmed to the height of approx 2.5 m and to an appropriate width to allow people to escape quickly. The following linked legislation hopefully should provide you some answers.

              Strataman says this: “The NSW Environmental Planning & Assessment Regulation 2000 Part 9: Fire Safety… requires that “the owner of a building, to which an essential fire safety measure is applicable, is required to maintain each essential fire safety measure in the building”.  Failure to comply with this legislation can lead to significant fines and possibly serious legal ramifications for those responsible.

              An appropriately qualified person, such as a Fire Engineer or Building Surveyor, must inspect the fire safety measures and provide an initial Fire Safety Certificate (also commonly called a Fire Safety Installation Certificate) to the Owners Corporation for all new buildings or recently ‘altered’ ones.

              This certificate must then be provided to the local council and the Fire Brigade and a copy displayed in a prominent location within the strata building.  Then, each year, the whole inspection process happens again and any ‘defects’ are reported to the Owners Corporation so they can be corrected.  Once all the issues with compliance are fixed, the Annual Fire Safety Statement is then sent to the local council and the Fire Brigade with a copy displayed in a prominent location within the strata building.”

            Viewing 4 replies - 1 through 4 (of 4 total)
            Reply To: SC Rights in Exclusive Use Garden Areas
            PLEASE ... If your property is not in NSW, mention its location (state). Don't identify companies or individuals by name. Don't mention or promote your company or services. Keep acronyms and initials to a minimum. Please, don’t use “quote” unless there is a specific point to which you wish to refer, then highlight (define) that specific passage before you click on "quote". Otherwise just use reply. THANKS.

            You can use BBCodes to format your content.
            Your account can't use all available BBCodes, they will be stripped before saving.

            Your information:




            Forums Strata Committees Current Page