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    kay
    Flatchatter

      We are a complex of 80 units in a regional area NSW. The Building Managers (BM) Contract (called Caretaking Agreement) was set up initially by the Developer in conjunction with the Strata Manager over 20 years ago. A new Caretaking Agreement was signed in July 2017 with the appointment for 5 years with a 5 year option. The 5 year option was applied for and accepted by the Strata Manager in April 2021 even though it did not expire until July 2022.
      My issue is that the current BM (married couple) are no longer on site and pay a member of their family to maintain the complex. The origin BM’s – one has had dementia for a couple of years and the other had a stroke last year and their son now has Power of Attorney. They are in the process of selling the contract to another BM, which I believe can be quite lucrative for the original party. I understand approval needs to be given by the SC for the sale/transfer of the Agreement.
      We appear to be paying a large amount of money for little gain for the duties on the original contract (S120,000pa). Despite them trying to talk up what they actually do! There is no issue with the current family member carrying out the maintenance and repair of the common property and controlling the use of common property by residents, tradespersons and overseeing their activities.
      My question is How do we terminate this contract? My aim is to create a new contract which is more realistic and also at a cost saving for the BC.

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    • #65832 Reply
      kaindub
      Flatchatter

        Unless you have missed out some detail, the current contract is void.

        A building manager contract requires a vote by the owners corporation. The strata manager alone can’t extend the contract.

        Check the minutes from 2021 AGM to see if a vote was taken.

        Since the strata manager has acted without authority, it’s their problem to sort it out with the building manager.

        #65858 Reply
        kay
        Flatchatter
        Chat-starter

          Thx Kaindub,

          The new Caretaking Agreement was signed in July 2017 with the appointment being 5 years with a 5 year option. The 5 year option was written into the contract and was applied for and accepted by the Strata Manager in April 2021.  A far as I can ascertain reading the legislation they are allowed to take up the option of a further 5 years which can be approved by the Strata Mgr.

          If they wish to transfer to another party ie sell, then this needs approval of the Strata Committee.

          Cheers K

          #65860 Reply
          Jimmy-T
          Keymaster

            These 5+5 year caretaker contracts are an infection that has spread from Queensland and benefit only the caretakers and and the developers who sell them in the first place.  Who reading this has an effective 10-year employment contract?  It’s time the Property Services Commissioner had a good hard look at these rorts.  Strata managers ony get three years  maximum. That’s the benchmark.

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            #65923 Reply
            kay
            Flatchatter
            Chat-starter

              Thanks Jimmy, From my research they appear to be an issue and hard to address legally.  I think our contract goes back to the time the complex was built and the developer established this contract.  I am not aware of any other industry where you can on-sell a contract???

              #65925 Reply
              Jimmy-T
              Keymaster

                Perhaps the answer is to stop paying the fees and let them take you to court.  Then they would have to do the heavy lifting to prove their contract was valid.  Send them a note saying you believe their contract was not validly signed and you will be happy to discuss a new contract which is legally binding on both parties.  This is not legal advice, by the way, just a tactic you might explore.

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