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    LoveTheView
    Flatchatter

      One of our residents, a tenant, is keen to install a bidet.  She says she has approval from the letting agent. She  contacted our strata manager to find out how to cut off the water for the installation period.  At this point the strata manager contacted the management committee to ask for our opinion on what feels like a first for this building.

      We are concerned to make sure that the installation is done by a professional plumber, to ensure there is good protection from backflows into the building’s water system.  And of course if an electrical connection has to be installed we would hope that a licensed electrician would also be involved.

      Does the management committee have a right to check on the plumber’s qualifications before the installation proceeds?  If so, how best to do this?  Should we be checking that the owner is in fact aware of the installation?

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    • #79034 Reply
      woodg62
      Flatchatter

        I would think the application/request should come from the owner only.

        #79040 Reply
        Jimmy-T
        Keymaster

          I would think the application/request should come from the owner only.

          Absolutely.  This is a renovation, effectively, not just the installation of a new piece of furniture.  The tenant needs to come to an arrangement with the owner first, which answers the question about informing them.

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          #79124 Reply
          UberOwner
          Flatchatter

            Tenant asks owner to do this work (presumably via the letting agent). If owner is supportive, owner applies for permission from the OC. Strata manager can help the OC out by gathering all necessary documents from the owner. This may include plumber licenses, warranties and insurances. Owner may also need a by-law. When the OC has given approval (after reviewing these documents), the owner can arrange the work – the role of the letting agent may be to arrange and manage the installation if that’s what the owner wants.

            Note that I’m in NSW so some terms and practices may be different.

            #79126 Reply
            Jimmy-T
            Keymaster

              It has just occurred to me that what may have been requested is one of those fancy electric Japanese toilet seats that has a “bidet” like facility. In that case, it probably isn’t interfering with common property but the Committee should still insist that a licensed plumber be used to install it.  And if they don’t already have a by-law in place, they should pass one that says exactly that – all plumbing work must be carried out by a licensed and insured plumber.  After all, they can do it with a simple majority vote.

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              #79135 Reply
              kaindub
              Flatchatter

                I believe that in all states of Australia there is a definition of restricted work

                Thats work that MUST be carried out by a licenced tradesman.

                Electrical and plumbing spring to mind.

                So no need for a bylaw, as using anyone other than a licenced tradesman to do plumbing work is against the state laws. (which override strata laws)

                #79371 Reply
                LoveTheView
                Flatchatter
                Chat-starter

                  Thanks all.  Just to round this off, our strata manager did not know what to do (not helpful).  And we don’t have a facilities manager, sadly.  So the management committee sent a polite email to the owner, letting them know what seemed to be proposed, what aspects the committee had concerns about, and asking if the owner was supportive.  It turned out the owner had no idea, and contacted the letting agent to stop the whole thing.  The agent then indicated in an immediate email that there had not been an approach by the tenant after all.

                  Thankyou @kaindub for clarifying the situation with certified tradespeople, that is helpful. Although one can’t help being nervous that some owner does something illegal, that no-one gets to hear about, until something goes wrong and the BC has to solve a problem.

                  #79373 Reply
                  Jimmy-T
                  Keymaster

                    one can’t help being nervous that some owner does something illegal, that no-one gets to hear about, until something goes wrong and the BC has to solve a problem.

                    It might be worth putting together a polite and friendly circular to all owners and tenants telling them what they need to do before they can start “renovating”.

                    This would include reminding renters that they must get permission from their landlords before any work can be done and that the strata committee will inform the owners that work is being done, to make sure permission has been granted.

                    There are so many people in strata who think that because they own the flat they can do whatever they want, regardless of the effect on common property, but would be happy to know what the rules are.

                    And it sounds like you need a new strata manager.

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                    #80697 Reply
                    Jeremy_167
                    Flatchatter

                      We had a similar situation in our block, tenant went ahead and arranged for a bidet install without looping in the owner or the strata committee. Honestly, these things always end up messy if the right steps aren’t followed from the start.

                      In our case, we asked for proof that the plumber was licensed and insured before anything got approved. I’ve used Your Choice Plumbers in Melbourne before (not for strata, just at my place) and they were great, proper paperwork, knew what they were doing, especially with backflow prevention.

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