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Do you have experience doing this before, or are you looking to get involved with your new purchase? I can better give some advice when i know which. All the best with it regardless. Cheers, C.
All sounds a bit raggedy. I’d propose in the simplest response you seek that only the 5 legitimate members vote on motions and the other 2 contribute in the general positive way they would be expected to as committee members but do not vote. If that is not acceptable to the 2 they need to go and guests filler spots offered to another 2 qualified/owners to replace them as would happen for when and as any regular vacancy arises.
Why does it matter if you are on the role as a renter anyways? Interested to learn sumfink.
My point being I guess that, in Qld, you can put your request to them ideally for consideration at their next meeting but they are not required to respond in the way you want/demand. You should though clearly outline what the issue is and what the response may be, including quoting legislation if you know it, price quotes or supporting info to help make the decision more obvious and easy but they dont need to do it your way. They do need to uphold legislation though but they may have other plans or priorities or whatnot you may be unaware of.
Apparently they can ignore your requests and motions you may put to your committee for their monthly meetings, but they can’t ignore a Motion you put up for an AGM. The former is your committee getting underway in the way they best see fit, the later is the owners agreeing, or not, on something that the committee will be expected to undertake. So if your AGM, or you are aware that a EGM, is planned soon you might like to try going that way.
Many people, including your own committee members, don’t often know their State legislation and laws, and their own complex’s (live)-by-laws that all owners must comply with. You should spend the time acquiring this knowledge over time as it really cuts to the chase and can save you a lot of time and stress worrying over things you can or can’t get done.
Often you will find good people in power don’t know or understand their role and limits, or duds in power who do and use it for their own benefit, esp old hands who don’t have or want to spend their funds on things that ‘have always been that way’ or wont benefit them.
So quoting a little legislation can work magic in your favor, such as ‘I was going over the Act and couldn’t see where it says that, can you show me please?’ to help flush out those who may be right (but you still verify it) from those who are being silly – and need to get real.
I totally disagree with the sentiments above. We have a no laundry above balustrade height bylaw here and it works well. What you want to avoid is the Chinese laundry ala Hong Kong style mess. It’s not forcing folks into only use clothes dryers but to avoid those high positioned Aldi wall hung permanent strung ones. You can’t control who perpetually will have laundry hung or how much is out, how many are out and most usually looking horrible. I’ve lived here for 3 years now and use one, sometimes, two collapsible temporary wire clothes air-ers. I still own my electric but just never need to use it.
Some folks write notes out of genuine courtesy and some as a set up for anything goes when the party gets too raucus or goes way too long. Fortunately, it seems young folk these days like to drink at home then go out which is better than the reverse.
If your bylaws do have a cut off time you might mention that in a courtesy note back to them. If they are nice people you can roll with it more easily than if they are rude. If this one goes ok and doesn’t become a too regular occurrence you will probably be happy but if not you have your response as part of your cannon fodder.
On the night I appreciate some folks annoyed by another’s party may be a little reticent to contact them if they think they might not respond the way you want, so do feel free to call the cops who are generally happy to attend if they aren’t busy elsewhere and do so without naming you as the caller.
If it does go pear-shaped, keep in mind what a bouncer told me he does which is to use his ATM strategy: Ask them, tell them, make them to have it addressed and not repeated.
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I feel your pain, it’s why complexs need to ensure the body corporate committee has the rules in place and is proactive enforcing this. If they are not it can be hard to correct without a whole lot of cost and angst for all concerned. Noisey hard surfaces need to have a sound deadening underlay and not just be laid straight on the stripped back concrete floor. Probably the most likely culprits are home renovators/DIYers, off-site investors, or those looking to renovate and on-sell to someone else.
Hi essy, sorry to hear of your dramas. There are 2 angles to this. One is owner responsibility to abide by by-laws, so read those and take action that fits under that where you can. The other is the owner’s committee which is responsible to oversee and getting stuff done that affects the whole of building. If they dont do stuff you can chase these things down during the year, but sometimes your best chance is to put in a Motion for all owners to vote on at your next AGM (or EGM if there is enough owners up to call for one). As for shared costs you unfortunately are in for a penny in for a pound.
As I understand it, and as is in Qld where I am, you can write your motion for a committee meeting but they dont need vote on it at all, whereas if you write one for the AGM (or egm if you have the numbers to call for one) it’s the owners in full voting and if passed the committee are then charged to execute it.
Seems like a over-reaction setting up a by-law that will get used once ever blue moon. Would you not be better to just write it up as a egm/agm Motion with the detail in the explanatory guff and just pass that? As I recently stated I don’t like complex-partial replacements which can be a real hassle over time as things change such as local requirements, parts redundancy, style preferences, engineering changes etc.
The ideal in my mind is you all get them done if/as required or no one gets them individually rolled out over time. Variations to installation approach, different visual/fade over time, style/model/parts redundancy, local approval spec change requirements all add up to a dogs breakfast over time. Get them funded from group owners money rather than individuals allowed to do there own thing is a better way for visual, effect and value of everyone’s property is my view.
In Queensland you can write a Motion for a committee member’s removal for an AGM or a EGM. You don’t even need to specify why. No doubt you’d probably need to sell that with genuine, persuasive information in your accompanying info to help sell it but the Motion itself can be quite brief and to the point. I imagine these days that is intended as a dignified way to seek someone’s departure should they be older and losing their marbles without having to spell that out. But you can also use it if you have the numbers to ditch anyone rusted on or over-lording whom many don’t consider working in everyone’s favor. It’s a good rule as in Queensland committee members can just go around again unchallenged once they are on the committee in the first place, and so some do way beyond their use by date!