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The excellent (Aussie) Murray Cox of InsideAirbnb.com interviewed on how the commercial spread of short-term holiday letting has led to locals in Hobart having to sleep in tents in the Showground.
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Col Schultz said: “Assuming you mean a request from a lot owner to see the emails, I would take that as a request for an inspection of the records and handle it that way.”
So how would you “handle it” when your strata manager says that his professional organsiation, the SCA, tell its members that they shouldn’t provide email addresses as part of a strata roll inspection?
Hypothetical challenges are all well and good but they don’t help anyone. I have contacted the State government on this and they are still trying to come up with a definitive answer. Until such times as they are instructed otherwise, I’m pretty sure strata managers will take the line of least resistance and not provide email addresses as part of the strata roll.
As I pointed out several posts ago, there is widely used strata management software out there that allows SMs to hide owners’ email addresses with the click of a button.
So, again, how would you “handle” that?
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This from the Choice review of front-loading washing machines (which are generally more efficient and tend to have cold-only inlets):
Front loaders generally offer more temperature options than top loaders because they use an internal heater rather than hot water from the tap (which is a maximum of 65 degrees).
So while most front loaders don’t have a hot water inlet, they can comfortably wash at up to 90 degrees (which is partly why you can’t open the door mid-cycle). While heating water this way is more expensive than using off peak electricity or solar, the low volume of water used means top loaders are still cost effective to run, even on hot cycles.
The down-sides, according to Choice is that they are a bit noisier and can take two to three times as long to wash a load.
Swings and roundabouts … but as Austman observes, a better alternative than re-plumbing the block.
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David Ng said: As Secretary of my small OC I prefer email correspondence to paper.
Yes, but what do you do if someone in your scheme wants everyone’s email addresses? That’s not a challenge – I genuinely want to know how you would handle it.
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Can you hear that distant rumbling? It’s the residents who prefer to use a cold wash – for a variety of environmental and economic reasons – asking why they should subsidise the additional electricity costs of people who prefer a hot wash.
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The Dettol option makes sense. I’m not convinced that a “hot” wash will be any healthier than a cold one. Warm water can breed germs faster than cold and I wouldn’t be recommending spending thousands of dollars on a hot water system that may not achieve what you are hoping for.
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Flame Tree said: “Apparently they can ignore your requests and motions you may put to your committee for their monthly meetings but they can’t ignore a Motion you put up for an AGM…”
If you read section 232 (2) of the Act, apparently they can’t ignore any formal requests without the potential for retribution. If you send a letter and they don’t respond, or they deny your request, the door is open for action at NCAT (provided they are neglecting their responsibilities under the Act).
Sending an item for inclusion on an agenda, which is then denied, ignored or not even put on the agenda, is no different. You still have to take action. There are no StrataKops who will roar in and sort it all out.
You’re not wrong, but I can’t see the difference in how it might play out.
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The original post was in August two years ago … but FDH (the original poster) wrote to us just the other day on something else, so you never know.
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They’re lucky. In my block the creature would be elected chair … provided it kept levies in check.
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Under section 232 (2) of the strata Act you can take the owners corp to obligatory (for you) mediation, then NCAT, for failure to fulfil their statutory obligations.
Check back on your strata committee’s minutes to make sure they didn’t discuss it, but either way you have grounds to at least claim your requests have either been ignored or rejected.
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Agree with what? His/her misinterpretaion of what I wrote?
Or are you agreeing that imposing bogus fines that won’t stand up to challenge is not bullying?
And no, you are not a gang, merely a duet, singing from the same song sheet.
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Sorry. I didn’t pick up on the inheritance angle.
If I were you I would dig in on this – he wants to disrupt the community’s standards to increase his chances of selling. That’s not fighting discrimination – it’s blatant opportunism.
Anyway, who’s to say there aren’t people out there now hanging out for a no-pets strata scheme that isn’t likely to change, now that by-laws are being overturned.
Nothing will be decided at mediation. The Fair Trading mediator will ask you to compromise (becasue that’s what they do) and you simply don’t have to. Relax but stand your ground. NCAT is where the action is.
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The recent Queensland ruling that you quoted has been overturned by a Referee (whatever that is).
I think in your case, all you can do is wait and see what the other owner is going to do, and decide if you want to keep the by-law and “dare” them to bring in an animal.
Even though I am pro-pet, I am also pro-community and if a small community such as yours is against pets, and will be directly affect by their introduction, then I think you should have the right to continue to say no.
Is is not “unconscionable” and “discriminatory” for people who don’t want to be around animals to be forced to put up with them because one person has chosen to ignore by-laws that were in place long before he or she bought into the scheme?
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Casuarina said: “Jacksonlyn18, what was the outcome of your experience at the tribunal?”
That was posted in July last year so the OP may have wandered off to worry about other matters.
In any case, matters have moved on with two large “never pets” blocks having their no-pets by-laws overturned at NCAT.
I believe both are appealing the decisions so it is far from resolved, but it may be worth keeing an eye on these cases. The first concerns the Elan in Kings Cross and the second the Horizon, just down the hill in Darlinghurst.
Needless to say, we’ll be watching to see what the final outcome is in either case.
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FDH said: “The chair should say no, followed immediately by ‘that is not in the jurisdiction of the committee’. “
I fear that may be a very narrow interpretation of strata law. The Chair can’t say yes or no, but they should suggest putting it up for consideration at the next committee meeting, at which the committee can decide whether or not to recommend it to the owners corp at a general meeting.
In fact, if the door is in a state of disrepair, the committee can just agree to fix or replace it. But either way, the chair should be less dictatorial and more helpful.
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