Forum Replies Created

Viewing 15 replies - 106 through 120 (of 170 total)
  • Author
    Replies
  • tina
    Flatchatter

      Woodwalker, the rules for proxies are documented in the Strata Schemes Management Act 2015 (Schedule 1, Division 2, Part 4, section 26). I copy / pasted them here.  I highlighted the bits that answer your questions.

      26 Appointment of proxies
      (1) Duly appointed proxy A person is a duly appointed proxy for the purposes of this Part if the person is appointed as a proxy by an instrument in the form approved by the Secretary and the form is signed by the person appointing the proxy or executed in any other manner permitted by the regulations.
      (2) Form of proxy The approved form is to make provision for the giving of instructions on—
      (a) whether the person appointing the proxy intends the proxy to be able to vote on all matters and, if not, the
      matters on which the proxy will be able to vote, and
      (b) how the person appointing the proxy wants the proxy’s vote to be exercised on a motion for the appointment or continuation in office of a strata managing agent.
      (3) Proxy to be given to secretary of owners corporation The instrument is ineffective unless it contains the date on which it was made and it is given to the secretary of the owners corporation at least 24 hours before the first meeting in relation to which the instrument is to operate (in the case of a large corporation) or at or before the first meeting in relation to which the instrument is to operate (in any other case).
      (4) Period for which proxy effective An instrument appointing a proxy has effect for the period commencing with the day on which it takes effect and ending with the later of the first anniversary of that day and the conclusion of the second annual general meeting held after that day, unless it is sooner revoked or a shorter period is provided by the instrument.
      (5) Proxy cannot vote if person appointing proxy votes A proxy cannot exercise a vote in relation to a matter if the person who appointed the proxy is exercising personally a power to vote on that matter.
      (6) Effect of subsequent proxy An instrument made by a person appointing a proxy has no effect if the person makes a later instrument appointing a proxy and delivers it to the secretary of the owners corporation in accordance with subclause (3).
      (7) Limit on number of proxies that may be held The total number of proxies that may be held by a person (other than proxies held by the person as the co-owner of a lot) voting on a resolution are as follows—
      (a) if the strata scheme has 20 lots or less, one,
      (b) if the strata scheme has more than 20 lots, a number that is equal to not more than 5% of the total number of lots.

      (8) Despite subclause (7), a person who owns more than 1 lot in a strata scheme may appoint a single proxy in respect of all the lots.
      (9) Adjourned meetings An instrument appointing a proxy for a meeting is not rendered invalid merely because the meeting is adjourned to a later date.

      in reply to: Leaking Balcony due to retiling- whose problem? #76072
      tina
      Flatchatter

        I suggest you search “owners corporation pay for damaged caused by lot owner”. There are many strata lawyers discussing this topic. Here is what I gleaned from a quick search. I found the following info on a Marsdens Law Group web site but I have difficulty posting links in forum posts.

        Whilst the other lot owner is responsible for the cost of repairs, you will have to get the owners corporation involved.  The Owners Corporation is responsible for keeping common property maintained.

        If the other owner does not offer to pay for it:

        1. NCAT cannot award damages to you. You have to go to a court.
        2. Strata Schemes Management Act 2015 Section 153 Owners, occupiers and other persons must not create nuisance. The damage to the ceiling is the nuisance. A lot owner caused the damage. Therefore, the lot owner is responsible for repairing it.
        3. Strata Schemes Management Act 2015 Section 106 Duty of Owners Corporation to maintain and repair common propertyEven though the Owners Corp did not cause the problem, they have a duty to see it get fixed.

        The rules for including balconies in common property changed around 1974. It would be helpful to ask a lawyer to read the strata plan note about “interior of the balcony”.

        in reply to: Paid garden watering not fixing reticulation #76070
        tina
        Flatchatter

          I think Flame Tree is trying to say:

          1. There used to be an automated system for watering the garden. It stopped working after some tiling work was done. No effort taken to repair / replace the watering system.

          2. Until recently, a gardener was employed to water the garden. Now this gardener is no longer watering the garden.

          3. Committee is now looking for an owner to water the garden and be paid for it.

          4. Flame Tree wants to know:

          (a)   What kind of discussions were held by the Committee to take this course of action?
          (b)   Is the cost of paying an owner is in the budget or approved in an AGM?

          You should ask your strata manager or Committee. I can’t speak for Qld but it seems reasonable that owners receive the minutes of all meetings held. Owners should also have seen a proposed budget and then approved it a general meeting.

          If your strata manager is not distributing meeting notices with proposed budgets, they are not doing their job. If the owners don’t read the meeting notices, they are not doing their job either.

          in reply to: Can committees set their own rules? #76029
          tina
          Flatchatter

            Hello outsider

            The starting point for rules about strata committees would be the Strata Schemes management Act 2015. The Act is on the NSW government’s legislation web site. Google it. It’s not hard to read.

            From there you should scroll through the headings until you see ‘strata committee’ or do a search for ‘strata committee’. There will be a section explaining what the responsibilities of the strata committee are.

            There is another section about the process for conducting strata committee meetings. That’s near the bottom under a heading with the word ‘Schedule’ in it.

            I wish strata managers would point you to the Strata Schemes Management Act. Knowledge is power. They probably don’t want us to get too smart.

            If you get stuck, let us know.

            in reply to: Can SM charge us for attending to by-law issues? #76033
            tina
            Flatchatter

              Are you in NSW?

              I don’t know what you mean by Schedule 2 model rules. Is this about by-law breaches? I remember jimmy interviewing Bannermans lawyers about a costs by-law for by-law breaches. It is invalid. You can’t charge an owner for breaching a by-law unless you take the matter to NCAT.

              I think your question is different because the strata manager intends to charge the owners corporation, not the person who breached the by-law.

              I can only speak about NSW and refer to the Strata Schemes management Act 2015.

              Before a general meeting, you should have received a notice of a meeting with the meeting agenda. The meeting agenda should list all the motions which will be voted. There should be a motion stating that the Owners Corporation will pay this $187 per hour.

              A meeting notice and agenda should be delivered at least seven days in advance of the meeting. You should have at least seven days to consider this decision before voting on it.

              Can you get a copy of your strata manager’s agreement? This should document every charge and what service they provide. Don’t take ‘no’ for an answer. As owner, you are entitled to see what is in that agreement. It’s quite an eye opener.

              in reply to: Balcony fix will turn my home into a building site #76030
              tina
              Flatchatter

                Hi,

                I have downsized for retirement and purchased a top floor apartment built in 1995. Was a great price and now I see why. Was told that the balconies may need to be renovated with new waterproofing and tiles in the next five years and the day I moved in I was told it’s happening soon.

                The balconies are over 200 meters square and are considered Common Property with my exclusive access. There is water egress in units below and you can clearly see the deterioration of the expansion strips in my balcony. I’ve suggested that they be replaced however been told due to “legislation Design & Building Practitioners Act 2020, a partial waterproofing remedial works will not be permit.”

                22 years ago a previous owner converted on balcony into a sunroom and built an awning on the main balcony.Ive been told I have to prove approval for these or I will have to pay for removal of these. Bit scared to go to council to check on these as may cause more headaches.

                The work involved has been advised to take 2 months.

                sorry about long winded story but can I ask

                1. Do I have to live in a construction site for this length of works ? Would be lot of foot traffic.

                Ask your builder.

                2. Do I have to prove approval of structures built so long ago ?

                Is this a pergola? In other words, is it a roof over your balcony? Council would usually approve it as long as it is not too close to the boundary fence. Just ask Council to visit and take a look.  In my strata someone complained about work that was done more than ten years earlier.  Council investigated and eventually it was approved.

                3. Acquired 12 very massive pots on the balconies with purchase. Do I have to remove them ? Would be near impossible.

                Ask your builder. You probably should remove them to avoid breakage. Builders will not be happy to tip toe around them. IF they are too heavy, empty them first.

                4. Been told this will cost Strata over 1 million. Does this need to be voted on at a AGM ?

                It sounds like a lot of money. If the owners corporation does not have the money, they would have to raise a special levy. That would require voting at a general meeting.

                in reply to: Podcast: Behind the scenes of the Strata Trap #76034
                tina
                Flatchatter

                  Wow. I thought it was just me who felt so angry that I was breathless and incoherent whenever I talked about strata!

                  It surprised me that Sue thinks that people look down at strata owners. In other parts of the world, living in an apartment is normal.

                  I hope someone else will report on strata after Linton Besser. I don’t want strata grievances to fall off the twenty-four hour news cycle.

                  in reply to: Strata Manager responsibility in paying invoices #75988
                  tina
                  Flatchatter

                    …I expanded my complaint to include her inability to recognise when an invoice is for work on private and not common property, I was told that if the SM didn’t initiate the work then she’ll just pay any invoice that gets sent to her and she’s not responsible for whether or not the work should actually be paid for by the OC. I’m talking about work that’s obviously private like fixing a tap in someone’s sink (no longer can be a defect either).

                    That’s corrupt. Owners Corporation money should only be spent on maintaining / repairing common property.  If the strata manager does not recognise the difference between common property and the lot, they are not fit for their job.

                    The simple solution is to pass a motion at your strata committee that the strata manager should not pay any invoices unless they have been approved by the treasurer (or another registered office-bearer) of the strata committee. Anything that the strata manager pays without approval is on them.

                    That is exactly what we did four years ago. My previous strata manager had a clause in their contract which allowed them to spend up to $500 on any repair without referring it to the owners corporation.  They also wanted to spend above $500 if it was an “emergency”.  I got tired of seeing jobs which cost $495 or $490. At other times they went over $500 because the lot owner deemed it an emergency. When the motion was passed, the strata manager terminated their contract with us. We lived happily ever after.

                    in reply to: Must-see TV – strata’s dark Underbelly exposed #75967
                    tina
                    Flatchatter

                      That was an excellent report. 44 minutes is not enough to tell every person’s story. Linton Besser said he received thousands of stories from unhappy owners.

                      My past strata manager used to run the meetings as if he was in charge and the owners answered to him. An NCAT Tribunal Member explained to us that it’s the other way around: strata manager answers to the owners.

                      Ignorance is a problem. I know owners, who do not understand what an owners corporation is and what is its responsibility. They complain about paying levies. They think they’re claiming their levy money back if they can get a repair on their home. They don’t care whether it is common property or not.

                      For most of us, the apartment / villa / flat etc is the most expensive thing we own. I would urge every owner to educate themselves. The Owners Corporation Network has a lot of basic “New to Strata?” information on their web site which every owner in a strata lot should read.

                      in reply to: air conditioning proposal rejected #75948
                      tina
                      Flatchatter

                        Mediation was fairly straight forward, we both outlined our case and then the mediator came back to each party individually to work through an amicable solution.
                        …
                        In hindsight I should have progressed to mediation sooner.

                        Best of luck out there fellow strata dwellers !

                        Excellent news. Enjoy your aircon! Mediation bookings can take months. The sooner you apply for it, the better.

                        tina
                        Flatchatter

                          If this is already going to court, there is not much I can add. It looks like a war between two groups of residents.

                          Have you spoken to the property manager or the owner of your home? If they advertised the rental property as having gym access, could you ask for reduced rent?

                          in reply to: Cameras monitor residents – not for security #75945
                          tina
                          Flatchatter

                            Hello rrychar

                            I feel your pain. My strata went to NCAT and successfully removed the security cameras. We did it without engaging a strata lawyer. It involved a lot of time on the computer getting to know the Strata Schemes Management Act 2015 and reading a lot of strata lawyer web sites. I can tell from reading your post that your knowledge of who’s who in strata is not complete.

                            The Owners Corporation is IN CHARGE of everything to do with the strata plan. The Owners Corporation is whoever owns the 12 lots in your strata plan.

                            The owners corporation appoints a strata committee to oversee the work of the Owners Corporation. The strata committee has three office bearers: chairman, secretary, treasurer. The strata committee is appointed each year by the owners corporation. The owners collectively decides who serves on the strata committee.

                            I am guessing that you used the word “strata” to refer to the strata manager. The people you call “strata” answer to the Owners Corporation. Not the other way around. Strata managers are delegated the responsibility of taking care of your strata plan. They might tell you what is / is not permissible according to the law. My experience is to question everything they say. It is easy now with internet access.

                            I am saying all this because you may not realise that you, as owners, have a lot more power than you realise. Both strata committee and strata manager answer to you. Their power was granted by you and the other owners. You can take it away from them by voting.

                            HOW WE SUCCESSFULLY REMOVED THE SECURITY CAMERAS:
                            If an owner installs something which ALTERS THE EXTERNAL APPEARANCE OF COMMON PROPERTY and they did NOT pass a SPECIAL RESOLUTION to make that alteration, they are breaking the law.

                            In your situation, there should have been a meeting for ALL the owners to vote. Not just the strata committee. A special resolution means that 75% of vote is in favour of the cameras. e.g. if eight people vote, a special resolution would be six votes in favour of the cameras.

                            It is impossible for the strata committee to make this decision on their own. Likewise it is impossible for the strata manager to make this decision on their own. If they say so, they are lying. It is explained in Section 108 of the Strata Schemes Management Act 2015.

                            We cited two laws:

                            Strata Schemes Management Act 2015   Section 108
                            Surveillance Devices Act 2007

                            You can find all Acts of Parliament on the internet.

                            All your points about data security are valid. We included data security in our NCAT submission. Ultimately, the NCAT tribunal member ordered the removal of the cameras because it violated Section 108 of the Strata Schemes Management Act 2015.

                            The bigger issue:

                            • There is no clarity on the data privacy of residence and who has access to the data. If strata installed the cameras, it would fall under their data privacy policy but as this has been installed by the owners corp, it seems it falls into a black hole.
                            • At home CCTV kits are a potential cyber issue, creating a security issue on someone monitoring the time, days of the comings and goings to the individuals apartment. Or, worse still illegally gaining access to the cameras and the footage for other more sinister purposes. There are no industry regulation around owners corporations being mandated to use professional security companies.
                            • The access to the security footage is kept on an owners phone, creating further security and safety risks. Also, creating a creepy environment for residence.

                            Would be great to get your thoughts on this topic and to hopefully bring awareness to the cyber and data privacy issues that exist.

                            Presumably, the chairman thinks there are drug deals and other criminal activities going on, or they’re just weird. I would be worried about domestic violence perpetrators, stalkers, paedophiles viewing the video. Who are we to know if the chairman is one of these people?

                            Your first step is to talk with the other owners.  If 75% of you don’t want these cameras, you can win this.

                            in reply to: AGM cannot agree on budget or levies #75672
                            tina
                            Flatchatter

                              I am in NSW in a unit block of 4.
                              …
                              3) At the AGM, 2 owners wanted to keep the admin fund contributions to an amount which was almost 60% less than the actual costs of last years fund. There was almost double the payments predicted to the Strata manager because there is a lot of conflict with owners splitting 50/50 on the costs. He is copied into all emails and says he needs to be paid for his time. Fair enough. The opposing units wanted his costs decreased but even if it was half, the contributions would still not cover the shortfall.

                              It is unrealistic to raise say, $4,000, in levies but spend $10,000 in actual costs.  That would be 60% less than actual costs.  It sounds like they’re trying to spend down existing funds and leave nothing left for maintenance.

                              4) Also at the AGM, 2 owners want to keep the sinking fund the same, even though we just had a big cost with replacing old utility infrastructure which reduced our sinking fund to around $10,000. The painting was supposed to be done but now will not be done. It is mouldy and peeling.

                              The owners corporation must prepare a capital works plan. The capital works plan documents what work will be required over the next TEN years. You aestimate the cost of that future work and allocate money for it over the next ten years. (It’s all explained in the Strata Schemes Management Act 2015).

                              5) The strata manager says we are in breach of the Strata Law by not having a budget or levies set. Is this true?

                              Correct. You can read the “strata law” for yourself. Here is how to find it:
                              1. Google Search  “Strata Schemes Management Act 2015 No 50”
                              2. There should be a link for “NSW Legislation”
                              3. Click on “view legislation”.  This is your bible for understanding  NSW “strata law”.  Everyone should read it.
                              4. Scroll down to “Part 5 Financial Management” and read it to understand your responsibilities regarding budgets.
                              5. Scroll down to “Schedule 1 Meeting procedures of Owners Corporation” to find out what should be included in a general meeting agenda. There are two kinds of general meeting: Annual General Meeting (AGM) and Extraordinary General Meeting (EGM). Your strata manager may charge you to hold EGM but you can hold one between yourselves by following the procedures outlined in Schedule 1.

                              5) A few days after the AGM, one owner who wants to keep costs down demanded the record of spending by the sinking fund over the last 10 years. The strata manager then copied everyone into the reply where he said the strata would have to pay for his time to do this. There have been different strata managers over the years and he would need to go through records. The owner who requested this was very angry

                              You should have signed an agreement with your strata manager to define what work they do for their monthly service fee and what incurs extra charges.

                              Have you and the other owners already received annual financial statements?  They should document what money has been spent in the past year. They are boring to read.  Most owners I know throw them out or put them in a drawer and forget about them.

                              My strata plan (8 units) is 50 years old. I retrieved every financial statement since 1975 and entered the transactions into a personal finance software on my personal computer.  I know where every cent has gone.

                              6) I have requested a copy of the budget which another owner prepared and which she has reworked. She wanted to table it at the AGM and get it voted on but the other 2 units requested to see it first. I think this is reasonable.

                              I thought you said that you just had an AGM? If you have another general meeting, it’s called EGM (extraordinary general meeting). You should get the proposed budget approved at the next EGM.  Refer to Schedule 1 to see how much notice you need to give for an EGM.

                              7) I feel that administration is looming. I have spoken to Fair Trading and they say we need to do mediation first.

                              No. If you apply for an “appointment of a compulsory strata manager”, you bypass mediation. It goes straight to NCAT. Go to the NSW fair trading web site and download the application form for strata. The form has a list of all the orders you can request, whether you need mediation, what evidence you need to produce and who can apply for them. Any owner can make that application without telling the other owners. The fee is about $110.

                              8) I sent an email prior to the AGM asking all unit owners to a 1 hour meeting about the budget over one sunday, and another hour the following sunday if things needed more work. There was no reply.

                              As kaindub said, not a good idea. Call an EGM (extraordinary general meeting). Follow the procedures as set out in the Schedule 1 of the Strata Schemes Management Act 2015. If you have all your discussions documented in minutes, you have something to show to the NCAT member.

                              9) I was wondering if there is a list of administration costs somewhere that I could look at?

                              This should be in the strata management agreement document. The arrangement between you and your strata manager seems relaxed. The strata manager should provide a list of their costs for managing the place and doing extra things that are not included in the monthly service fee. They should have provided a financial statement every year to show how much money was raised and how it was spent.

                              in reply to: How do you guesstimate levies? #74704
                              tina
                              Flatchatter

                                8 lots.  Around $800K each.  Levies $3200 per annum.  0.4% of property value.  Sydney.

                                tina
                                Flatchatter

                                  NSW

                                  Can Committee members conduct Major Capital works without approval for the OC?

                                  IS a special resolution required ie 75% votes for?

                                  The works would change the appearance of the complex as viewed from the outside.

                                  Is there legislation that describes this?

                                  Is there an amount or costs limit?

                                  any capital works (major or minor), which alter the external appearance of the common property, require a special resolution.  75% of the vote of the owners at a general meeting.

                                  legislation is Strata Schemes Management Act 2015.

                                  As far as I know, there is no costs limit.

                                  NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal (NCAT) could make orders to stop works.  You can find more information on the NSW Fair Trading web site.

                                Viewing 15 replies - 106 through 120 (of 170 total)