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  • in reply to: Requesting Orders at NCAT #62111
    TrulEConcerned
    Flatchatter

      1. I have been to NCAT a few times (not all strata matters) and often my application and the parties I was up against prepared “amateur” applications. Never was an application knocked back by NCAT. NCAT assumes the parties are often lay folk and not QCs, so don’t despair that your application will be tossed back at you;

      2. In my experience, some very recent, the menu of available orders that NCAT can hand down are those listed on the 11 page fact sheet.T here are no other possible orders that NCAT can hand down unilaterally or “by consent”.

      3. In your application, when outlining your case, list ALL the orders and the relevant sections of the SSM Act. Some orders you can see directly relate to your issue and some orders may only touch on your issue (and may even do so in a manner that is not your preferred option eg s. 147);

      4. You may at the hearing find that not all the orders you listed are relevant. If that’s the case, then as Americans say: “no biggie”. You will not be penalised by listing more orders you seek than you actually raise in a hearing;

      5. As to your point on s. 147 (monetary penalty), you write that you want the owner to fix the issue and not penalise him financially. Well, that’s what you want. Whether in time you get that is another matter. By adding this order to your claim, in the event that you are successful at NCAT but the owner either refuses to comply with the order or hints that he allows you to fix the problem at his cost, this order will formalise the OC’s righr  to do the works and make the owner pay the OC’s costs.

      in reply to: AGM, SM and bullies #62108
      TrulEConcerned
      Flatchatter

        One thing comes to mind: why was the subject of sacking the strata manager listed for the AGM?

        It could have and should have been dealt with at a general meeting, without the presence of the strata manager, as many simple general meetings are.

        Some years ago, one strata I am involved with (not as closely as I am with others) had a committee member agitating to sack the strata manager. I really was not too intimate with that strata scheme, so I went with the flow. Maybe it was a personality issue or fraud. I don’t know and I do not recall chapter and verse being given to the committee.

        The committee arranged a general meeting 2 months prior to the AGM, the latter was always run by the strata mgr. At the in person general meeting (it was some years ago before ZOOM etc), the only motion was to sack the strata manager and the procedure ie what sections of the SSM Act applied was listed verbatim.

        The motion was carried.

        At the AGM the chairman reminded the strata mgr of the general meeting’s resolution and formally dismissed the strata mgr at the AGM, notwithstanding the strata mgr still acted for several more months as per his contract.

        TrulEConcerned
        Flatchatter

          I agree with the earlier two replies, in particular that

          * Compulsory Strata Management (CSM) is to be actively considered. But seeking CSM would not be my first choice;

          * Jimmy’s point of informing owners of exactly how life would change if a CSM appointed; and

          * Jimmy’s point on getting a third party such as StrataAnswers to give owners the facts of life. In my experience, owners (many of which are unthinking drones) often defer to the existing committee on most issues, but are often nevertheless curious to hear what outside third parties have to say.  Their interest heightens even more when they are not footing the bill of the third party.

          Also I would urge you to rely on a flyer rather than a meeting or webinar or similar for various reasons:

          1. Folk may be unable to attend a meeting or not be tech savvy enough to log into a webinar and

          2. Many elderly folks when confronted with the possibility of higher levies will want to run the matter by family or friends, so the earlier you send out a DETAILED flyer covering ALL the relevant points, the better for you.

          I suggest you do NOT ask the committee’s permission nor give them a heads up about your flyer as they will only discourage you (politely or impolitely) from sending one out. They may deceive you by stating that they will hold a meetings where all views will be aired, only for you to find out on the day that while all views are aired, you are limited to 2 minutes of air time! Where their views, their experts etc will have all the time they need.

          When writing your flyer give your name and contact details and present the case in all its history. Don’t assume readers in the complex are au fait with the issue. Focus not only on how the committee may be or is breaching the SSM Act, but also on the pockets of owners: make clear that the committee’s solution will cost more over time than your proposal.

          As someone who has recently been to NCAT (against a strata committee/OC) and won, I suggest if you make your way there you must have bucket loads of evidence. I did and that’s why I won. In your case, in addition to listing the breaches of the Act, you must back up your position with:

          * A costing of recent repairs and maintenance (R&M) costs, say over the last 3 or 5 years;

          * Duration the lift was out of commission for R&M;

          * Likely costs over the next 10 or so years to R&M, if the current lift is not replaced (the quotes should help with this);

          * Duration the lift will be out of commission in the future for anticipated and unanticipated R&M;

          * Quotes (plural) for lift replacement (total) and estimated life;

          * Estimate of upgrade cost per unit; and

          * Estimate of increase in the value per residences in the complex that such an upgrade will result.

          In fact, the more that I think of this, the more I am convinced that your flyer should be a summary of the  NCAT application .

          in reply to: Strata Committee won’t stop illegal parking #61872
          TrulEConcerned
          Flatchatter

            I agree with Jimmy about going to FT.

            As someone who has recently been to FT (a free service), twice and then at NCAT ($216 to apply from memory), may I suggest you prepare for Mediation at FT as though you were preparing for NCAT: list your grievance(s); point out to what sections of the SSMA you are focusing on; aggregate your evidence and spell out what outcome you seek.

            Doing this will endear yourself to the Mediator who no doubt sees her or his share of unprepared or under-prepared owners who no doubt have legitimate concerns but are unfocused in their submission. The lack of focus I believe hurts their chances both at FT and NCAT.

            Best of luck!

            in reply to: AGM – motions submitted by owners #61628
            TrulEConcerned
            Flatchatter
            Chat-starter

              Kaindub,

              Thanks for the feedback.

              I am to a great degree on your wavelength.

              I applied to NCAT for his removal from office on the SC as my preferred remedy. Of course if the Trib chooses removal wholesale from the SC, so be it.

              My logic is that I can accept him on the SC but without a portfolio as he carries sway with others in the scheme, his expulsion from the SC may be met with howls from some of his loyalists. I concluded better him inside the tent than outside ON THE PROVISO he can’t do anything in the name of Sec, Tsr or Chair.

              in reply to: AGM – motions submitted by owners #61484
              TrulEConcerned
              Flatchatter
              Chat-starter

                Kaindub

                I hear you about the difference b/w “things that are morally questionable ( but strata legal) and things that are strata illegal”.

                My focus at NCAT will be on breaches of the SSMA that is “strata illegal” actions eg a SC member dipping into the trust fund at least twice (without SC or OC knowledge at the time let alone approval) or upgrading common property to which she alone has access (again with no OC approval as required). Oh, and an email at the time, responding to queries from other SC members, expressing the view that she will not be bound by any decision of any meeting on the topic. In the event she refused a meeting on the topic.

                As for “morally questionable”, I suppose it cannot hurt to include many examples of such behaviour to show a pattern of putting one lot’s interest ahead of the interest of all lots.

                in reply to: AGM – motions submitted by owners #61456
                TrulEConcerned
                Flatchatter
                Chat-starter

                  Thanks for the feedback Jimmy. You make some very good points.

                   

                  in reply to: AGM – motions submitted by owners #61450
                  TrulEConcerned
                  Flatchatter
                  Chat-starter

                    My earlier postings queried going to Mediation/NCAT to challenge resolutions that were passed at an AGM. Subsequent to the postings, Mediation was applied for. A date was set. The OC failed to attend, so I was offered the opportunity to go to NCAT.

                    But at NCAT I want to approach this matter differently.

                    Rather than seek to invalidate motions passed at the AGM, does anyone know what section(s) of the SSM Act (in addition to ss 24,  232, 238) could  I rely on that covers the situation as I see it: deceptive behaviour by a SC in at first, inviting me to submit motions for the AGM and then, when they read what topics the two motions related to, chose to rescind that invitation to me and offered to place them on the agenda of the next general meeting, which is the Nov 2022 AGM.

                    Any thoughts?

                     

                    in reply to: Strata residents dodge holiday let by-law bans #61343
                    TrulEConcerned
                    Flatchatter

                      If a by-law allows a full time tenant to do something that is not available to an absentee investor, is such a by law “harsh” as per s. 139(1) that provides that a by-law must not be “harsh, unconscionable or oppressive” and hence ripe for a challenge?

                      in reply to: On title garden – staircase replacement #61204
                      TrulEConcerned
                      Flatchatter
                      Chat-starter

                        Hi Kaindub, sorry for my late reply. Thank you for your feedback. On close examination, the document sent to me by the council  – in reply to my query as to whether the stairs were common property – was signed by a surveyor who explained the ins and outs of why he deems the stairs to be lot owner’s responsibility.

                        It is reasonable to consider the matter closed. Thank you once again.

                        in reply to: On title garden – staircase replacement #61003
                        TrulEConcerned
                        Flatchatter
                        Chat-starter

                          Sorry for the late reply, but it was a very hectic week.

                          Prior to posting my query, I inquired at the local council and was told in time someone will get back to me about the ownership of the stairs.

                          I was about to scan the plan and post it here as asked, when late yesterday a council officer contacted me.

                          Having reviewed the papers in its possession, the council is confident that the stairs, notwithstanding is an original structure, is not OC property, principally because it is not listed on the plan or documents the council has access to.

                          Thanks to all for your replies.

                          in reply to: Absentee landlords and AirBnB type rentals #60960
                          TrulEConcerned
                          Flatchatter
                          Chat-starter

                            Jimmy:

                            1. Thanks for the details of registration. It is my understanding that an owner (maybe a property agent but not a tenant) registers a property with Dept of Planning and then lists that ID in holiday letting advertisements.

                            2. As to the agent possibly not knowing if the premises are registered as STRA, you make a fair point Jimmy. I will ask the agent again.

                            in reply to: Absentee landlords and AirBnB type rentals #60955
                            TrulEConcerned
                            Flatchatter
                            Chat-starter

                              Jimmy asked

                              Is the apartment registered as a holiday let and if not, why not?

                              The managing agent did not address this issue. Hence I infer it is not registered.
                              I looked at the Dept of Planning pages as Jimmy suggested and see where hosts are invited to sign up to a NSW Planning Portal account through which they can register a premises as a holiday letting.

                              But I cannot see where I can simply look up a property (by inputting its address) and check if it is registered. Or must I sign up to a NSW Planning Portal account in order to verify the status of a premises?

                               

                              in reply to: Paying Strata Committee Members ? #60948
                              TrulEConcerned
                              Flatchatter

                                Sir Humphy and Jimmy gave good advice.

                                Regardless of what you do, here is what you must not do: do not allow what to me smells like a dodgy practice of allowing strata fees to be offset by payments/honororia to committee members.

                                I write from experience.

                                One strata I am involved with, for many years allowed a committee member to offset his levies with work claimed to be done (but not always verified by others that it was done) and this caused many problems:

                                • How many hours did he really work? Nobody kept count;
                                • What should have been a reasonable hourly fee? Nobody offered a figure;
                                • Often, in small stratas, the budgeted amount of levies receivable significantly exceeded what was actually received (given the practice of “offsets”); and
                                • Once you allow this practice to seed in your OC, even if over time you grow unhappy with it, it’s like an errant weed: very hard to extinguish.
                                in reply to: Absentee landlords and AirBnB type rentals #60947
                                TrulEConcerned
                                Flatchatter
                                Chat-starter

                                  Jimmy, thanks again for your reply.

                                  I have not had a chance to look into your suggestions, I will later today, but meanwhile want to advise that the strata has a by-law on short term/holiday rentals which states that an “occupier” of a lot can engage in short term or holiday letting. There seems no restriction on the “occupier” regarding how many can dwell on the premises or for how long it can be let out.

                                  As I understood the NSW gov’t reforms, an OC could choose to allow or to prohibit absent landlords from engaging on short term letting. The logic of which was to possibly give different rights depending on whether they resided on the premises (presumably so they could let one or more rooms) as opposed to the rights offered to non resident landlords (who would rent out the entire premises). Fair enough in my books.

                                  But correct me if I am wrong, but the wording of the by-law discriminates in favour of a tenant who is absent for indefinite periods, so long as he/she holds the head lease (as such a person from my understanding, is the “occupier”) and can then engage on short term letting. The by-law discriminates against absent landlords, who by definition are “owners” residing elsewhere. It’s also a back eye to resident landlords who will have to put up with possibly loud and obnoxious short term renters, in the event their neighbouring tenants depart for a length of time and lists the premises for AirBnB style “guests”.

                                  In my case, a neighbouring tenant has departed for 5 months and is (so the landlord says) making the premises available for short term letting. The effect of which is identical to an absent landlord letting out the entire premises.

                                  If I am right, does  such a restriction on how an absent landlord may use of property render it possibly invalid by virtue of s. 139(2)?

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