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  • #64172
    Blackhotel
    Flatchatter

      My OC have requested to remove magnesite from my apartment, after I advised them I have it. They are paying for the costs to remove. The Bylaw states that they must do this in a reasonable timeframe. So far it’s been 6 weeks and nothing happening. What can I do? What would be classed reasonable?

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    • #64186
      Jimmy-T
      Keymaster

        As with so many things in strata, the word “reasonable” is not defined.  However, Section 232(2) provides something of a guide in that it says if you haven’t received an answer from your owners corp to a request for action within two months, then they have effectively said “no”.

        How does this apply in this case? It’s an indication of what might be considered reasonable.  In the meantime, you can ask what steps have been taken.

        If the strata committee or strata manager haven’t contacted contractors and asked for quotes for the work, then it’s “reasonable” to assume they have done nothing and you might want to consider initiating mediation at Fair Trading with a view to taking further action at NCAT if need be.

        The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
        #64198
        Flame Tree (Qld)
        Flatchatter

          To be reasonable you need to have reasons. They don’t need to make sense but they need be offered. A simple Yes, or No, doesn’t give depth to your thought or a chance to respond, understand or counter. You see business proposals assessed as fair and reasonable, or unfair but reasonable all the time. Both need reasons to suggest or establish such.

          #65262
          Blackhotel
          Flatchatter
          Chat-starter

            Update – So it’s been 3 months and the OC have still not completed the re-levelling of the floor. The magnesite was removed back in July. My losses are substantial ($16,000+)  so I engaged a lawyer to take action against the OC. This will obviously end up in NCAT. I have been homeless as I cannot live in my property for the past 3 months. Couch surfing, staying in hotels and literally going on cruises to be able to accomadate myself. Yep, crusing is that cheap at the moment! What are my chances of recouping the losses?

            #65276
            TrulEConcerned
            Flatchatter

              Just my 2cents…you write that you engaged a lawyer. In my experience if one hires a lawyer, he/she must be focused on strata law and not be a “general” or “suburban” lawyer.

              I see that this website is sponsored by a strata law firm. If you’re sure you want a lawyer, why not seek their advice?

               

              #65286
              Flame Tree (Qld)
              Flatchatter

                I’d be pretty sure someone’s insurance, your’s or the body corporate’s, would be covering your costs should your place not be habitable? Surely.

                As to what makes a reasonable timeframe it might help to consider the recommended response times for a Qld apartment mangers group. Basically: if it’s urgent or dangerous it’s done in a day, and if it’s something they agree to get on with (and not delay or revisit another time) it should be done within 6 weeks. That get’s things done in a timely way, keeps some urgency about it, and saves talking about it for way too long.

                 

                #65294
                Jimmy-T
                Keymaster

                  I don’t think either strata insurance or home and contents insurance will cover defects or the consequences of their rectification unless there was accidental damage.  Could be wrong, though.

                  The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
                  #65312
                  Blackhotel
                  Flatchatter
                  Chat-starter

                    Definately a Strata Lawyer.

                    #65413
                    Blackhotel
                    Flatchatter
                    Chat-starter

                      So, I applied to the Strata Insurer and they declined my claim. However after I refuted this, they have now approved my claim.

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