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09/11/2024 at 12:26 pm #76810
Under s. 122 of the SSM Act the OC can enter premises under certain circumstances. Does anyone know of a case where an owner of a lot was away, did not leave a key with anyone and the OC needed to access her lot during an emergency and that entry caused damage for which the lot owner sought compensation at NCAT and lost pursuant to clause 6 of that section?
Thanks to all.
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10/11/2024 at 11:24 am #76814
Unless its a real emergency the OC needs an order of the court to enter a property
In an extreme emergency ie a fire the OC can enter without a court order. The only damage I can contemplate is a broken door. As the door is OC property, they have to repair it at their cost. But thats going tobethe least of the problems.
Maybe you can be more specific about the type of damage you are thinking of.
If an OC is granted entry to a property it needs to take reasonable precautions not to cause any damage to owner property. However how one proves the OC damaged owner property may be harder to prove.
NCAT is a civil court, so the standard of proof is “on the balance of probabilities”. Unless you can show recent photos of undamaged property, proving such a case, even with such a low threshold, is difficult.
12/11/2024 at 5:59 pm #76835Hi kaindub,
Thanks for the reply but I think you missed clause 6 of s. 122
As I read it the OC is not responsible for damages to the door or lot owner’s contents if the lot owner hindered the OC in carrying out its functions.
Surely withholding keys from the OC when one is absent and in fact not passing the keys to a neighbour or friend is the very definition of hindering? No?
12/11/2024 at 8:41 pm #76841Surely withholding keys from the OC when one is absent and in fact not passing the keys to a neighbour or friend is the very definition of hindering? No?
No. If it was, there would be a standard by-law to that effect. The section you quote is to deal with people who don’t want anyone coming into their apartments for reasons that range from privacy to criminal activity and in so doing interfere with essential or emergency repairs. The front door is common property so the OC has a lot of leeway in that regard.
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13/11/2024 at 3:46 pm #76847Jimmy, given what you wrote, who do you see responsible for damages to a front door and lot owner’s contents if the OC and its hired tradesmen need to enter to make emergency repairs and the owner has not left keys with anyone? Surely the OC cannot be forced to reinstate items that need not have been damaged if a neighbour had a key.
Is there another section in the SSM Act that speaks to this?
It would be great to hear of NCAT cases that considered this issue.
13/11/2024 at 3:59 pm #76849Is there another section in the SSM Act that speaks to this?
Not really. There are issues of personal privacy and security that would mitigate against any by-law or strata law requiring keys to be left with third parties. Having lived in a building where a corrupt building manager allowed security mates to enter apartments using special master keys I can see why there is no requirement for owners to leave keys with anyone else. This is the relevant section of the Act.
122 Power of owners corporation to enter property in order to carry out work
(1)An owners corporation for a strata scheme may, by its agents, employees or
contractors, enter on any part of the parcel of the scheme for the purpose of carrying
out the following work:
(a) work required or authorised to be carried out by the owners corporation in
accordance with this Act (including work relating to window safety devices
and rectification work carried out under Part 11),
(b) work required to be carried out by the owners corporation by a notice given to
it by a public authority,
(c) work required or authorised to be carried out by the owners corporation by an
order under this Act.
(2) An owners corporation for a strata scheme may, by its agents, employees or
contractors, enter on any part of the parcel for the purpose of determining whether
any work is required to be carried out by the owners corporation in accordance with
this Act.
(3) In an emergency, the owners corporation may enter any part of the parcel for those
purposes at any time.
(4) In a case that is not an emergency, the owners corporation may enter any part of the
parcel for those purposes with the consent of any occupier of that part of the parcel
or, if the occupier does not consent, in accordance with an order of the Tribunal under
this Division.
(5) A person must not obstruct or hinder an owners corporation in the exercise of its
functions under this section.
Maximum penalty: 5 penalty units.
(6) An owners corporation is liable for any damage to a lot or any of its contents caused
by or arising out of the carrying out of any work, or the exercise of a power of entry,
referred to in this section unless the damage arose because the owners corporation
was obstructed or hindered.The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
13/11/2024 at 4:01 pm #76838Surely you have to be asked to grant entry first before you can be accused of hindering access?
If the resident had left contact details and responded in a reasonable time then surely that is all that is required in normal circumstances?
Otherwise it would seem that the OC/Management company would need to hold a set of keys for every residence in the building.
13/11/2024 at 4:04 pm #76852Surely you have to be asked to grant entry first before you can be accused of hindering access?
Absolutely, or at least be subject to a Tribunal order. In an emergency, however – such as the all-too-common burst washing machine hose scenario – the scheme would possibly be compensated by its insurance.
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18/11/2024 at 5:46 pm #76915david,
I understand in many buildings the OC does not hold keys of everyone. My point is that in an emergency when time is of the essence and if an owner left no contact details and left no key with a neighbour or concierge etc requiring the OC to force entry why should the OC have to pay to repair a door whose damage could have been avoided if only the owner had been reasonable in his actions?
18/11/2024 at 6:04 pm #76925I don’t think it is unreasonable for an owner to be absent and not leave their keys with anyone. I do not believe it is common practice for people to leave keys when they go away, on the off chance there will be an emergency in their apartment building necessitating access to their property. So that is irrelevant to the question of who is responsible for repairs.
The door is common property – if the OC had to damage it to gain access the OC should repair the door. I had first hand experience of this many years ago, when there was a flood in my apartment, and the fire brigade had to break the door down. The OC paid for the door and the splintered doorframe to be fixed.
21/11/2024 at 9:29 am #76953Scotlandx,
Thanks for your reply.
It seems from online searches and fair trading that there is no clear answer.
While you say in your case the OC paid for repairs that does not necessarily mean the OC was liable.
I would be pleased as punch to find a case where s122 ssma was tested ie how “hindering” was defined. Just to get clarity.
21/11/2024 at 3:49 pm #76987If you are interested, this has been discussed on this week’s Flat Chat Wrap podcast.
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