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@Whale said:
Dragondeewhy – this discussion, like cigarette smoke, seems to have drifted away from the original source, and from my perspective at least it’s becoming a bit tiresome, and your habit of including the entirety of previous threads as a quote, with older quotes within, doesn’t help (I’ve fixed #20).

We’ve progressed from people farting in the lift, to the smoke from BBQs, to people smoking on common property, to  being influenced by “mass psichology” (is sic), to vehicles’ exhaust smoke, and now to the legalised use of marijuana.

Enough is enough for me….. can we please get back to strata-related topics?

Agree but as Internet forums go one thread might end up in totally different direction.  The thread is usually owned by the person who started it and he should keep the direction of the thread. Enough from me in this thread.

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@PeterC said:

@Dragandeewhy said:

A push biker will openly show discomfort in the presence of a person who smokes while he or she inhales with the full capacity of his her lungs the fumes of peak hour traffic, thinking that he is living a healthy life style. Etc etc etc.

I am sure your hypothetical cyclist would much prefer that the other vehicles on the road were other cyclists or electric vehicles not producing the fumes.

But they are not , so?   This is about apartment living not cyclists versus cars.

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We obviously do not understand each other. You come from one side of ideological thinking I come from the side of “live and let live”. This topic is to large to be typed on a space of a forum thread. Through out the whole human history there was some sort of substance abuse that took other people to hell. Right now there is a constant positive media coverage of marihuana while smartly avoiding the negatives of marihuana abuse. Nobody is mentioning the marihuana rehab centres in holland or South Africa.  Remember it is great to build haven but once you build it you might find that it is place that nothing ever happens.

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@JimmyT said:

@Dragandeewhy said:
This whole smoking thing is kind of the result of manipulated mass psichology. Nobody ever mentioned smoking marihuana. In my previous post I have mentioned all the other examples where “if you can smell it, it is dangerous for you” but nobody took it seriously.  

So, “manipulated mass psychology” is the cause of cancer, heart disease and emphysema?  Get real.

People who smoke stink enough to take the smell with them when they walk into a room. Doesn’t that tell you something about the lingering effects of smoke.

People who lived in apartments 100 years ago had other things to worry about – that doesn’t make smoking OK.

I will cheerfully set fire to the next person who tells me “you breathe in pollution all the time so what difference does cigarette smoke make?”.

It’s called harm minimisation – it’s why we have speed limits and road rules and asbestos laws … to protect ourselves against idiots who don’t care about their own health and expect everyone else to suffer as a consequence.

Are you saying that every “stink” or smell is harmful for you? Harm minimisation or positive discrimination how ever you call it still gives the right to the morally superior once to openly hate the addicts. In the north of Sydney they are openly hated while going more to the west or south the tolerance towards smokers increases. While visiting Europe or other continents the whole discomfort around smoking miraculously disappears.  This is what I was talking about with “mass physiology”.  A push biker will openly show discomfort in the presence of a person who smokes while he or she inhales with the full capacity of his her lungs the fumes of peak hour traffic, thinking that he is living a healthy life style. Etc etc etc.

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@JimmyT said:

So, does this mean we have to put up with any level of noise created by children?  If not, where do we draw the line?  

Is it unreasonable to expect parents who have chosen to enjoy the benefits of strata living to consider their neighbours and moderate the behaviour of their children?

Or don’t normal standards apply to kids and their parents?

Have they chosen or are they forced to live?   . Is it reasonable to expect children to play in front of the apartment building and make noise that playing children do?

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@home to rest said:
Neighbours (parents & kids) are making daily loud noise, yelling, crying etc which is affecting our peaceful enjoyment at home. Don’t think neighbours would respond well to a face to face chat. 

Would you recommend anonymously giving neighbour a note? Outlining ..

a, Noise problem;

b, Offence under by-law 1 ‘ .. occupier of a lot must not create any noise on the parcel likely to interfere with the peaceful enjoyment of the owner or occupier ..’ 

c, Recommend neighbours stop making noise, to benefit of all residents.

After note is lodged, if neighbour continues to make noise, then what should we do?

thanks

If the kids are small up to 12-13 years old of course there is going to be shouting and yelling. What would you expect? What for you is loud daily noise for somebody else is just daily activity.

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This whole smoking thing is kind of the result of manipulated mass psichology. Nobody ever mentioned smoking marihuana. In my previous post I have mentioned all the other examples where “if you can smell it, it is dangerous for you” but nobody took it seriously.  People live in apartments for100s of years and they all managed somehow.  I find this selective targeting anoying.  Same as this current asbestos hysteria….. Unreasonable fear of nuclear power….gluten free craze.

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I agree BBQ smoke….spicy cooking…strong smells of laundry softeners…certain parfumerie smells in lifts and hallways…

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