[safetynets4life]

I am the owner of the net business in question.

I would just like to say that we have been operating in Australia since 2011. We have sold hundreds of our net kits to clients all over Australia and we never have had one complaint. There has never been any issues with the waterproofing of any building new or old. Not one issue, ever. I am sure the buyers would have contacted us if there had been.

This product is sold worldwide and to my knowledge, there has never been an issue with waterproofing or damaging to a building apart from the holes on concrete.

The system was installed by an Australian licensed builder and he is very competent at his job.

The screws used are stainless steel 6G 1 1/4″. Once the system is removed, after a few years, the screws are removed and the area in patched up. 

I think a comment from Lady Penelope gives a lot of food for thought for this Strata. If this goes to the tribunal, your names will forever be remembered as the people who think the aesthetics of a concrete block should be put before the safety of young children. It is not a great way to be remembered….

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considerate band fair said:

Hi Jimmy, as you said on ABC radio the other day, our childrens safety is of the utmost importance, but there is also a regard to the appearance of a building. We all want our children to be safe.  But we also invest a lot of money and time in buying into well kept and attractive buildings and keeping up the appearance of said buildings. For our own satisfaction and of course to keep the value of our property. If there was perhaps a more attractive alternative that is not such an an eyesore and is not at all intrusive or detracts from the buiding perhaps there would be more interest. There will be so many variances, older buildings with fewer lots may suit the old fashioned security bars and newer buildings with more lots will need some type of less intrusive model but I am sure as this issue is discussed variations will evolve and eventually…solution.

Very prickly subject matter, but there you go.

Cheers CBF

I just would like to thank you Jimmy and also CBF. Some other critics on the forum put me down,but what you both said made a lot of sense to me.

“Safety must come first, but aesthetics cannot be ignored” is the lesson I have learned.

To succeed, I had to come up with a better product, less intrusive and easier to install.

At first I intended to develop something, but after some research I found something else, a new product, which unfortunately is not made in Australia, but it is completely transparent, made of a different material.

It is virtually invisible, so I believe it will have a much better chance to be accepted by Stratas. 12

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JimmyT said:

In a move that breathtaking in its pro-developer bias, new laws are being brought in to restrict claims for non-structural defects in new apartments to two years while the window for claims against structural defects is being reduced from seven years to six.

This is supposed to make developers more confident about building strata blocks – but will it make owners more confident about buying them?

Here's the story in the Financial Review this week, and here's the link to Fair Trading's web page about the genius new plan.

So here's a question, would you be more or less likely to buy into strata under this new scheme … cos there's no point in building them if nobody's buying them

To be honest I would be even less likely that I already am to buy a new apartment. I feel that even the very nice looking, modern apartments lack the sturdiness of the older buildings these days. I always hear about leaks, sound problems and such things. And the rooms just get smaller and smaller. If this scheme goes ahead, in my view, this problem will only be intensified as even cheaper materials will be used in the construction.

I love old brick buildings, specially the 3-4 floor ones. They usually have very thick walls, big rooms and high ceilings. It is just hard to find units in old buildings that have en-suites, which for me is a must!

I think that a lot of people don't think like me, though. A lot of people care more about the price. If they see something that looks nice and it is located where they want to live, for an affordable price, they will buy it. Most will only realise the mistake later on, when the problems begin to show.

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[Edited at poster's request]

Response to fire danger:

The safety nets can be cut with sharp objects such as scissors, knives and broken glass. You can also use extreme heat such as fire and soldering irons to get out. There is lesser danger of getting trapped than if bars were installed.

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gcelec said:

Hmm

The original post from safetynetsforlife said:

“The problem is that we have been operating for 3 months and not one Strata out of at least 20 have approved the safety nets…”

Maybe I'm missing something here, but how did Kaqui get her Strata to approve them?

Kaqui's Strata didn't approve or disapprove before the safety nets were installed. Kaqui decided to install the safety nets after waiting for 3 months for an answer and getting none. She was very desperate, as summer is coming. She comes from another country, where the safety nets are everywhere, they are seen as a necessity. After the safety nets were installed, the Strata approved them. Obviously most people don't want to do it this way. They want to get the approval before they do it, which is what I advise them to do. I certainly don't advise anybody to get the nets installed without permission from Stratas!

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