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11/04/2025 at 7:59 am #78994
We are due to renew our strata management contract for another 3 years and the terms are not all equal ie the strata manger can give 30 days notice of cancellation and the strata plan must give 90 days and is liable for all future strata fees and commissions that would have bene earned.
Has anyone had luck with changing this or just been given the push back that
a) its a standard contract that cant be changed
b) It was written by lawyer and cant be changed
c) these are the terms – take it or leave it.
Appreciate everyone’s experiences.
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11/04/2025 at 11:44 am #78998
No, I have had no success in changing the strata manager’s terms. My owners corp held a meeting and passed motions to change the strata manager’s terms were passed. The consequence was that the strata manager resigned and we had to seek another strata manager.
When we sought other strata managers, their contracts appeared to be made from the same template. It was the template from the Strata Community Association. Again, we requested changes such as don’t give yourself a $500 spending limit on repairs without consulting the owners corporation.
Reason: Tradies were charging $490 or $495 for work. We did not know about it until we read them in our periodical financial statements.
The strata managers concerned were not willing to give us that concession. They said it was too much trouble to call the owners for small jobs.
I don’t think options (a) and (b) are legally valid. It is another way of expressing (c) Take it or leave it.
11/04/2025 at 11:55 pm #79012There are new strata laws coming into effect soon. ( they have been passed by parliament and just waiting to be gazetted)
One change is that standard form contracts now have to have specific clauses in them. It balances the power of the OC with the strata manager. So future strata management contracts should be a lot fairer.
There is nothing to stop you changing clauses in any type of contract prior to signing it.
However I wanted to change some clauses in a strata contract we signed recently.I got some concessions, but the strata manager told me that they did not want to stray too far from the original contract because then every management contract is different and it becomes difficult for them to administer.
That’s perfectly understandable especially as OCs are driving the price of strata management down.
But I expect to see any new contracts signed later this year to be a bit fairer, but probably still non negotiable
12/04/2025 at 12:00 am #79029There are new strata laws coming into effect soon. ( they have been passed by parliament and just waiting to be gazetted)
The new laws which will come in around November mean contracts will have to line up with National consumer protection laws, meaning any that are seen to unfairly disadvantage consumers – that’s us – can be challenged.
I believe SCA has already rewritten the standard strata management contract to reflect this. If your strata manager insists on using the standard contract, make sure it’s the current one.
The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
12/04/2025 at 12:08 am #79013Additionally, you don’t have to renew for three years.
There is no legislated mi imum period of the contract.
In your case I would defer signing a new contract.
The committee can resolve to extend the current contract for 3 months.
By then the new legislation will be in and the strata manager will need to submit a new contract in accordance with the new legislation.
12/04/2025 at 12:33 am #79031Has anyone had luck with changing this or just been given the push back that a) its a standard contract that can’t be changed b) It was written by lawyer and can’t be changed c) these are the terms – take it or leave it.
All of the above arguments are very familiar and the only one that matters is the last one. Strata contracts are not holy scripture – they are a business agreement between two entities. You don’t even have to have a strata manager (unless you are a very large building in Victoria).
I always laugh when I hear anyone say – oh, this was written by a lawyer and therefore it can’t be changed. Sez who? If the strata manager won’t, or says they can’t change the terms of the contracts (they probably can, they just don’t want to) then show them the door. There are nearly 3,000 full-time strata managers in NSW and the Strata Community Association (SCA) has more than 200 companies on its books (and that’s only 75 percent of the industry). You must be able to find a strata manager who will make the compromises you need.
The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
18/04/2025 at 2:47 pm #79140A year ago I bought into a NSW 40 unit building and am now chairperson …. The current 3-yr strata contract expires in July ‘25 and I’m keen to change the strata company as they’ve got though 3 strata managers allocated to our building in 18months as a result of resignations. They can’t be treating their staff well.
They unilaterally introduced a full new ( increased) fee schedule on April 1 without any approval from Owners as it is allowed in their current contract!
Not many industries would allow contracts that permit unapproved variations by the contractor.
12/05/2025 at 9:36 pm #79375Our strata manager has submitted a new strata management contract using the SCA form Version 2024. Clause 6.2 states the agent’s maximum liability shall not exceed any cap set by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation and applicable to the agent. I asked the agent whether any such scheme had been approved and if so, what was the cap. He replied that the cap is $750,000. Is this right (it seems low)? I was also informed that the P I insurance for required for agents in NSW is just $1 million for one claim and $3 million in aggregate for all claim during the period of insurance. This is a significant drop from the $10 million cover required under our soon to expire current agreement (SCA form Version 2017) Has it been driven by changes to the Agents Act or regulations?
Clause 6.4 of the new form provides that the agent is discharged from all liability under contract, tort or otherwise at the expiration of 3 years from the date of the act given rise to the liability. When I said that this was unreasonable and that the agent should rely on the statutory limitation period like everyone else I got the response that they are not authorised to use the SCA agreement if they amend this wording. Sounds like BS to me. Are the insurers driving this change?
13/05/2025 at 7:43 am #79378Sounds like BS to me. Are the insurers driving this change?
The question of liability appears to be in keeping with the indemnity offered to SCA now that they have reached the much-vaunted status of a “profession”. Strata managers have been hiding behind the (correctly categorised) BS that they can’t change the contract because it is SCA copyright for decades. At one point SCA even threatened to sue owners for breach of copyright if they amended their contract in any way.
I had thought the new regime at SCA, following the Netstrata scandal, had stopped using this tactic. Perhaps the news hasn’t filtered through to the front lines.In the meantime, have a word with the Owners Corporation Network (ocn.org.au) about using their off-the-peg strata management contract. If your strata manager refuses to agree, start looking for one who will.
Meanwhile, I will raise this with SCA to see what they say.
The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
13/05/2025 at 9:44 pm #79397Our strata manager has submitted a new strata management contract using the SCA form Version 2024. Clause 6.2 states the agent’s maximum liability shall not exceed any cap set by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation and applicable to the agent.
I contacted SCA about this and this was their reply.
This agreement was updated as of February 2025 as part of SCA’s ongoing efforts to align with government reform, the Unfair Contract Terms Act, drive best practice and support continued reform across the strata industry.
Schedule 12 of the Property and Stock Agents Regulation 2022 noted terms specific to an agency agreement for management of strata or community title land that are to be excluded.
2A Terms excluded from agency agreement
(1) The agency agreement must not include a term or terms to the effect of the following—
(a) the owners corporation or association must pay for the agent’s professional indemnity liability, including insurance excess,
(b) the agent’s liability is limited to a specified monetary amount.
2A (2) states that subsection (1)(b) does not apply to an agreement covered by a professional standards scheme that has been approved by the Professional Standards Council, within the meaning of the Professional Standards Act 1994, and that is in force.
SCA (NSW) has a Professional Standards Scheme, therefore any member of SCA are able to have this term as they are undertaking the professional standards and requirements of the scheme instrument. This includes annual reporting of their professional indemnity, significant regular CPD education above the NSW Fair Trading CPD requirements.
For more detailed discussion or clarification, we recommend they contact the SCA (NSW) office directly to ensure they receive the most accurate and appropriate response to their concerns.Clause 6.4 of the new form provides that the agent is discharged from all liability under contract, tort or otherwise at the expiration of 3 years from the date of the act given rise to the liability.
This is what SCA replied:
Clause 6.4 of the new form provides that the agent is discharged from all liability under contract, tort or otherwise at the expiration of 3 years from the date of the act given rise to the liability. It was increased from 2 years to 3 years and included reciprocal rights to both the agent and the owners corporation.
SCA Agency Agreement User Licence – Terms and Conditions
“The Corporate Member may make amendments to the SMAA template by hand alterations or by attaching special conditions to reflect terms agreed with specific clients. However, the Corporate Member does so at its own risk, is responsible for obtaining its own legal advice in relation to the implications of such amendments and releases SCA (NSW) from any liability in relation to such amendments.”In short, get your strata manager to get the latest version of the contract from SCA and bear in mind that you can still make changes that you both agree on.
The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
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