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    peterepete
    Flatchatter

      When a Lot owner asks for permission to keep an animal on their Lot, in this case a dog, do they have a vote in determining what if any conditions are attached to the approval ?

      We are a 4 Lot self managed NSW strata. 2 lot owners want dog on a leash whilst on Common Property and 2 (one of which is the dog owner) don’t.

      I have phoned NSW Fair Trading twice and received contrary advice.

      Is the dog owner excluded or not in this determination ?

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    • #21990
      Whale
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        YES I’m afraid they do if you’re referring to the matter and any conditions being decided at a General Meeting, and if the Motion is voted upon by a simple majority then 2 for and 2 against would see the Motion is lost in its entirety.

        If on the other hand the Owners’ lot Units of Entitlement (UOE) varies from one to another, then any one of them can call for a “poll vote” where the Motion is then determined by the total UOE of those in favour and of those against, with the higher number determining the outcome.

        #22001
        peterepete
        Flatchatter
        Chat-starter

          Thanks Whale.

          Just doesn’t seem fair that half the strata has to put up with a situation created by a new incoming owner. You’d think that to let a dog run around common property unsupervised would require the permission of the majority.

          #22002
          Whale
          Flatchatter

            I don’t think that I’ve explained myself well enough.

            I assume your circumstances are that your Owners Corporation (O/C) is working off one of the Model By-Laws covering the keeping of animals on a Lot or on the Common Property, where animals / pets cannot be kept there without the prior written consent of the O/C.

            It’s relevant in your circumstances that a consent of the O/C can, and usually does, include conditions that therefore form part of that consent.

            You stated in your post (#1) that in your 4 lot strata, 2 owners are prepared to vote for consent on the basis of a included condition that the pet (a dog) must be kept on a leash when on the Common Property, and the other 2 owners, including the one seeking consent, will also vote for consent but without the included condition.

            So if the Motion is for the consent to be granted with the included condition, you and the like-minded owner will vote in favour and the other two owners will vote against, so it’s a tied vote and that Motion is lost; no consent and no dog!

            Conversely if the Motion is for consent with no on-leash condition, the other two owners will vote in favour and you and the like-minded owner will vote against, so again it’s a tied vote and the Motion is lost; no consent and no dog!

            There’s a requirement for O/C’s to behave reasonably in such circumstances, so the owner seeking consent could take the matter to arbitration, where I’m sure that a preference by 50% of owners not to refuse consent, but rather to grant it subject to a very reasonable condition (in my opinion) would be a upheld.

            I hope that makes the position clearer.

            #22003
            peterepete
            Flatchatter
            Chat-starter

              Thanks again Whale. Well explained.

              #22004
              Mr Strata
              Flatchatter

                Peterpete,

                May I suggest sharing the details provided on the Petcare Information and Advisory Services website (Petnet), in particular, looking towards the pet consent application and agreement form, also available through the Strata Community Australia website.

                This is a good way to establish clear expectations for all parties as to rights and responsibilities for a good pet friendly community.

                 

                Mr S

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