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    larney
    Flatchatter

    Sydney. 12 unit walk up 3 stories built 1981

    Our fire door frames didn’t have frame tags and at our most recent fire inspection we were advised to have them put on, which they duly did.

    I have just been advised that the frame tags indicate that the steel door frames were manufactured in 2021. But they are of course the original frames from 1981.

    Where do we stand legally with this? How should we proceed? I am concerned that our next fire inspector will advise that they should have all been inspected properly before tagging.

    We have just had all doors inspected for asbestos and will be replacing those that are. If we should be doing something with the frames it may be best to have it all done together.

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    Jimmy-T
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    I have just been advised that the frame tags indicate that the steel door frames were manufactured in 2021. But they are of course the original frames from 1981. Where do we stand legally with this? How should we proceed?

    My cynical side thinks maybe your fire safety inspectors have found something for which they can charge you extra. If so, they should at least apply tags that reflect the facts.

    As for your legal standing, call your strata insurer and ask them.  They’re the ones who will have an issue with this, if anyone does,  in the event of some misadventure.

     

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    larney
    Flatchatter
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    OK. An update on this.

    Sydney, NSW. 12 unit, 3 storey walkup block

    If we want the original date put on the frame tags, we would have to get the details of manufacture. This seems to be impossible. Surely other strata are having the same issues? I can’t imagine that we are the only 1980s building that didn’t have frame tags on the fire doors. What have others done? Do you just accept that the frame tags have got the wrong date of manufacture. ie. 2021 instead of 1981? Have you just not bothered to have frame tags attached to the frames?

    Since our block was constructed in 1981, do we even have to have frame tags, since it appears they were only  required from 2015 (correct me if I’m wrong on that point)?

    We either accept the frame tags as they are and hope that a future fire inspector doesn’t quibble; find the manufacturer (which won’t be easy); or have the frames removed and replaced with fire compliant frames (which will cost a fortune)

    Please advise what you have done if you were in the same boat.

     

    #60059
    Boronia
    Flatchatter

    My door in an early 1990s block has a tag on the hinge side of the frame. It has manufacturer’s name and hour rating only, no date.

    Most of the information I’ve looked up places emphasis on the door itself – construction, locks, gaps and age.

    As frames are unlikely to wear out or deteriorate over time, I don’t think there would be a problem with it not being dated. Perhaps there could be “grandfather rights” for older doors, and a recent date is just a “confirmation of compliance” at that date?

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