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Then 5yrs ago tried yet again finally got my own workman to trace the water from the roof past the top floor unit brick by brick silconing all the way and extra flashing. B/C plumber said the guttering inadequate.
If the guttering was inadequate 5 years it is still inadequate now.
Is it a 60s building?
Are they now fixing the guttering and you are liable for your share of 1/8th? or do you mean that your unit will be fixed by the OC and you are liable for 1/8th?
Was the upper unit repaired 2-3 years ago but yours was not repaired?
I’d say it stinks – and ask to see the scope of works for the roof fix if that is what is happening.
What are you being asked to be liable for? I wonder if the “get out of jail free” card that indemnifies committee members and the strata manager against all possible claims is being played?
As VCAT is taking a long time (over a year in some cases) to hear cases or just to get to Directrions Hearing and Mediation.
Thankyou for being interested. Yes I am told due to Vic strata rules that I pay 50% + 1/8th the cost of you window frames Yes different chairperson doesn’t live at property chairperson but has obtained one quote for repairing the roof/guttering through strata co. and this same plumber from 5 yrs ago states that the gutters are adequate but the railhead sizes are not and more down pipes required and the drainage needs all the tree roots dug out and cleared. I cannot get any answer from the B/Corp Co re the upstairs water problem and no paperwork. As most are rented owners not interested and I cannot even get the thread of what the chairperson who appears to discuss nothing and make all the decisions without your knowledge. I am supposedly a committee member I cannot even get to the strata company to discuss anything nor do I get replies I do get my share of the bills and in this case more. Yes we are a 1972 block. I don’t know where to turn really and they just bully you
Unfortunately it’s correct – not a lot. Others will not even realise that your being gas lighted. If your block is larger and enough committee members maybe. These people know exactly how to play it and have been in practice for years. It is part of their DNA. Obviously they feel you are threatening their perceived power within the group also they don’t have enough in their lives. A intervention order from the police would assist you in the committee/block knowing there is a serious behaviour problem and let all know you have done this due to this person’s made up stories. They are bullies.
Hi Sammy
You must get everything in writing. The executive committee is not giving you a consistent story. Please put together all emails, text messages and paper correspondence to confirm what you are saying. I hope you have a written statement from your workman from five years ago.
From my own experience in NSW, you cannot claim that the owners corp “refused to fix something” unless you first ask them to do it. If you have not done so already, put your request in writing. Then get their response in writing.
Then ask a strata lawyer how you should proceed. I don’t know why you would be liable. A strata lawyer can advise you.
Thankyou for your thoughts. Unfortunately we had 6 different strata managers within the same firm. Nothing was ever put into writing (I note that is still the case when topics are raised in AGM’s ). Always very careful when anything is raised nothing embellished as no paper trial is wanted or building problems mentioned in any seriousness. The emails sent to the strata firm and not replied to – our chairperson in our building is not on email – can only phone not directly to her as she will only abuse you and hang up on you if she doesn’t want to deal with it. Majority of the time she just attacks you as units mostly rented and no one stands up to her and no one owners are not interested (landlords). Just no maintenance ever happens unless it is steam cleaning the carpet and ordering tradies around servant master style. The strata company just say oh it will end up being a developer’s site.
Hi Sammy
You must get everything in writing. The executive committee is not giving you a consistent story. Please put together all emails, text messages and paper correspondence to confirm what you are saying. I hope you have a written statement from your workman from five years ago.
From my own experience in NSW, you cannot claim that the owners corp “refused to fix something” unless you first ask them to do it. If you have not done so already, put your request in writing. Then get their response in writing.
Then ask a strata lawyer how you should proceed. I don’t know why you would be liable. A strata lawyer can advise you.
Thankyou for your thoughts. Unfortunately we had 6 different strata managers within the same firm. Nothing was ever put into writing (I note that is still the case when topics are raised in AGM’s ). Always very careful when anything is raised nothing embellished as no paper trial is wanted or building problems mentioned in any seriousness. The emails sent to the strata firm and not replied to – our chairperson in our building is not on email – can only phone not directly to her as she will only abuse you and hang up on you if she doesn’t want to deal with it. Majority of the time she just attacks you as units mostly rented and no one stands up to her and no one owners are not interested (landlords). Just no maintenance ever happens unless it is steam cleaning the carpet and ordering tradies around servant master style. The strata company just say oh it will end up being a developer’s site.
72352. OUR BYLAWS are just the model ones and never implemented Answer I was given “Well you could have bought next to a car park” The units were always carpeted and the tiles are just new. I can definitely hear footsteps commencing from their first toe on the floor to knowing what time is lights out and the dragging of chairs,?? beds ??and their little butter fingers dropping things all the time. I have the secret sounds all the time and at this stage I am just lucky that there is no young family nor young ladies sporting very high heels. Any procedures to follow??
I am also in Victoria and have new tenants 3 adults in a 2b/r unit so doors are always opening and closing. The owner had all the carpet taken up and the entire place is tiled. Now these tenants are not noisey tenants but get up and start their morning shower at 5.30am 6.20am 7.10 am Mon -Fri sleep in at W/E’s is 7.45am for the first shower. The unit echos every draw wardrobe door and especially the shower cause you would be forgiven thinking they are in your shower. Our strata manager states there is nothing I can do. Is that true??
Could you please answer this same topic but I am assuming that it may be differ cause I am in Melbourne and that is only a NSW act?? Sami
Water Meters – one of my pet subjects. In Victoria I am part of an now 50yrs old 8 apt. block and have been a resident of this block for near 40 yrs. I commenced some 25yrs ago requesting individual water meters as I realised that I was subsidising other apartments.
Now, water was not so expensive in those days but I was not in a high paying job so I approached in writing with the same answer of a definite NO. As life proceeded residents after 20 plus years changed with the exception of one who had been placed as the chairperson doing their bidding and now only in the last year has that changed.
The block is now mostly renters which includes a AirBnB / even a young family with babies with the washing machine continually going/ a restaurant owner and family of 4 would send 4-5 staff home to shower as they did split shifts needless to say our water bill was extremely high.
About every 5 yrs I would bring this up again and received always the same answer NO!! It is less than 6 months ago I sent all the information regarding Fair Water Meters QLD to our Strata Manager who replied instantly with the usual NO. Never an explanation so I keep trying.
I am now on the committee (if you can call it that) The ex chairperson blames me for her not still having that position and the new chairperson having just bought the apt did not declare their business in Dog stays and Air BnBs.
As no other owner resides in the block their rents are I suppose is the priority so consequently nothing is every attended to or kept up to the mark nor answered I am not allowed the emails to contact all so I always send to 3 contacts I do have usually with no response including a new chairperson.
Where do I go ?- who do I email ? as many things need addressing on a yearly basis i.e. tree pruning/weeds/pressure cleaning of pathways etc?
P.S One other member who did try and fronted up to being apart of the committee decided that it was all too stressful and was no longer interested. He name stays on the committee register apparently due to numbers. Who has a positive answer for me please.???
In Victoria we have the same problem in a 8 unit apt block in supposedly a leafy upmarket expense suburb. The chairperson of BC did not see fit to declare that she runs a 5day block either BnB bedrooms or the entire apt which is pet friendly even though guests would need to come down stairs to the front door for calls of nature and animals are not capable of being far away from the entrance. Our SM company is just ignoring the issue along with fact we DO NOT HAVE separate Water Meters and gave the answer a straight out NO when sent a link to a website of a well known and respectable company that can do individual meters with the minimum of bother and it is not necessary for all units to comply if they do not want.
Can anyone assist on how to handle it Please. Sammy
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