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    pukoh
    Flatchatter

      A resident in our building keeps a set of keys in their mailbox. Our mailboxes got broken into, so the resident’s key were taken, which gives the thief access to all common property doors.

      The resident reported the break-in and the last keys. It was decided to replace all the locks and issue new keys, all over a weekend.

      The exercise ended up costing $4,500.

      What is usually done in this situation? Do the BC eat the cost, on-charge to the resident, or split the bill?

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    • #72358 Reply
      Just Asking
      Flatchatter

        There is usually a by-law dealing with loss or damage to common property due to an action or negligence by an owner. Perhaps that may be a place to start looking?

        #72349 Reply
        chesswood
        Flatchatter

          What’s usually done is to acknowledge that the thief is unlikely to return and explore the common areas. Who’d want to steal a few garden tools? Is anyone going to prowl around trying unit doors? There’d be a high risk of being spotted by residents and possibly photographed.

          Your committee needs members with a bit more experience on the job.

          However, your OC might consider upping the deposit on common-area keys so that people take more care of them.

          #72392 Reply
          Boronia
          Flatchatter

            Common areas can include car parking and storage cages. Easy pickings for a thief to come in at night with a set of bolt cutters. We had this problem a few years ago, which we put down to a departing tenant keeping a key; we changed the locks and the problem stopped.

            I live in a medium size block, and mostly wouldn’t know if someone in the building was a resident or intruder.

            Perhaps such an event would be covered by insurance?

            #72580 Reply
            VicRes
            Flatchatter

              If there’s not a bylaw allowing the careless resident to be charged the cost of rekeying the building, then there needs to be.

              And specifically mention that storing keys in the letter box, or anywhere else that’s essentially unsecured is not permitted. Basically put the onus on the key holder to prove they took appropriate care of the keys. And a police report for even a minor crime where keys are taken.

              All in the name of getting evidence from the person that their actions were careless.

              It might also be time to consider using electronic keycards which can be cancelled as soon as their loss is reported.

              #72665 Reply
              davidart
              Flatchatter

                If your mailboxes are using those GEM or standard camlock keys then the problem will persist.

                You need to use the appropriate camlocks.

                Regarding common areas access the use of electronic credentials can help but once again only if using the right system, thus no any HID products, they just emailed all distributors about their latest SEOS system that is now cracked like everything else they manufacture…

                Using virtual card on mobile phone is currently the most secured way to secure a building and to stop wasting time and money managing and buying physical credentials.

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