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    Jimmy-T
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      At the risk of repeating myself here is something of an afterthought about Artificial Intelligence in apartments, as a follow-up to our discussion in last week’s podcast, and which went out as the introduction our newsletter last week.

      As writers, we should probably be more cautious about the threat of AI in our world – especially with computers now writing fairly competently based on information provided – but the benefits seem to outweigh the disadvantages.
      That said, we keep hearing about how AI-powered machines could someday turn against inferior beings (like us) and destroy them.
      And if that seems a bit too Sci-Fi to be taken seriously, consider an apartment block powered by Artificial Intelligence that recognises your face, then opens the front door, calls the lift and takes you to your floor all without so much as the press of a button.
      All well and good, but then it gets connected to the financial records and committee minutes of your scheme and decides, of its own volition, that you’re late with your levies so you’re not getting into the building.
      Hmmm.  That’s got you thinking!

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      Strata Ken
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        The risks of AI are very much overrated, at least for decades. AI essentially is about building systems that make decisions, and they initially do this by looking at a large number of decisions and trying to get the correct result. As such they are fairly limited in what they can do.

        There are risks, and abig one is with the military. We can design AI that determine if someone or something is hostile and then choose a strategy to kill it. These will likely become more complex. Currently the major nations have agreed that any decisions should be agreed by humans but I expect it will be watered down.

        As an example a tank might detect an incoming shell. It takes action to shoot it down automatically, because there isn’t the time for human approval. It then calculates the location of where the shell was fired from and requests approval for fire. At some future time there will be multiple attackers and everything will be automatic.

        It isn’t going to read a book on ethics and decide that we are killing the planet and should end humans existence.

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        Jimmy-T
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          It isn’t going to read a book on ethics and decide that we are killing the planet and should end humans existence.

          I just spent two hours of my life that I won’t get back listening to a philosopher talking about the implications of AI.  Apparently among the first warnings were concerns voiced by Alan Turing (of Enigma Code fame), back in 1951 who warned that we might have to control super-intelligent machines some time in the future.

          The fear may be exaggerated but it’s not irrational.  If you set machines to rid the planet of its greatest dangers, the logical answer would be to eradicate humans.

          On a strata scale, imagine if you came home, you hadn’t paid your levies and, because of a “glitch”, the computer had cancelled your key fob.  Tell me you truly believe that has never happened.

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          strataact
          Flatchatter

            Most of those items referenced could have been done with computer systems in the past 15-20 years, without any use or need for AI.  Indeed they still could now.

            The facial recognition scenario could be done, as identification either linked to a key fob or token on a phone with the face recognition verifying that it is indeed the rightful owner linked to the token, or as recognition, where the face is assessed as allowed to enter as part of the set of approved faces.

            And such access could be linked to the strata finance systems.  Say you could have a bylaw saying only financial owners could access facilities like the pool or gym.

            And as now, with any computer system, there could be errors, or the people managing the system could make mistakes(eg not removing as valid a face when a person sells their lot to a new owner.) And their is probably lots of potential there    for admin overheads as tenants change in a rented lot.  On the plus side it could be used as a dis-enabler of airbnb/STHL – if the short term renters needed to go thru a process to get their facial image registered, rather than just collecting a key and fob from a lockbox.

            There could be some use of AI, or more correctly Large language Models (LLM) in strata.  For example you could translate your bylaws and meeting minutes for owners or residents who don’t  have english as a primary language.

            #72202 Reply
            Jimmy-T
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              Firstly, you can’t deny owners access to facilities, even when they are way behind in their levies.  So, while it’s unlikely that any scheme would link accounts to access in this way, I have two thoughts – Robodebt and Mr Bates Vs the Post Office.

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