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    Jimmy-T
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      How do you stop a loud-mouthed bully from dominating a strata committee? You know the type; they assume their way is the only way and shout and scream like a spoiled child – or sneer sarcastically like a pantomime villain – when anyone suggests an alternative.

      Free and energetic discussion is to be encouraged, but all too often the politics of the playground take over with the strongest opinion prevailing over quiet logic while the majority acquiesce to the bullies rather than become the target of their aggression.

      Even strata schemes that have a code of conduct for their committees can find that one or two rogue elements will ignore the rules and disrupt proceedings with the sole intention of promoting their opinions to the exclusion of anyone else.

      As recent posts on the Flat Chat Forum testify, pity help those on the committee who dare to express an alternative view. Contempt, derision, ganging up, verbal abuse and a threatening demeanour are all commonplace in strata schemes where bullies rule the roost.

      And don’t even think of quoting chapter and verse of the law to prove your point – anyone who actually knows and understands the strata Act and Regulations is quickly labelled a ‘bush lawyer’ by those who operate on the loudness of their voice rather than the value of their opinion.

      So what can you do to curb the excesses of the callously self-centred, opinionated, brash and bullying?

      Despite the comments above, a code of conduct is a very good place to start, as is a set of standing orders as to how your committee meetings should be conducted.

      I have posted examples of both a code of conduct and standing orders on the Flat Chat website for anyone who’s interested but I have to say that the lack of examples of either is a hole in the otherwise excellent advice given in the Fair Trading document Strata Living.

      So what, in summary, should a code of conduct contain? It should warn against aggressive behaviour, raised voices, personal, racial or sexist abuse and maybe even insist that owners remain seated while they are talking.

      It could remind owners that they have legal obligations regarding conflicts of interest, while other technical issues sprinkled through the Act  – such as the use of proxies – could all be brought together in one simple document.

      It’s not going to stop anyone from behaving badly; it’s main purpose would be to show where the line is, just so you can tell committee members when they have crossed it.

      As for the standing orders, they are more about procedure such as who gets to speak, when and how often and they give the chair a framework for bringing unruly meetings back to some sort of order.

      Which brings us back to what you can do about committee renegades who refuse to play by the rules.  You can’t exclude them – they have a legal right to be at the committee meeting, even just as ordinary owners.

      And you can’t de-elect them from the committee unless you get a 75 percent vote of owners at a general meeting or, just as difficult, get orders from the Tribunal (NCAT) to have them removed.

      However if your standing orders allowed the chair to warn a member about their behaviour and then, if they continued to be disruptive,  ‘name’ them, leading to an immediate vote by the committee that they had acted in breach of your code of conduct, that could go on the minutes of the meeting for everyone else to see.

      That could appear as “Mr Knowitall from lot 276 was warned and the committee agreed he had breached clause five of the Code of Conduct relating to excessively aggressive and abusive behaviour [or whatever].”

      By the way, if anyone is worried about potential defamation in criticising someone in the minutes, the law allows a certain level of qualified privilege for comments that are made as part of the management of corporations and the like, provided they are not done maliciously.

      Now, a normal human being would soon realise that continuing this behaviour was counter-productive and pull their head in.

      If they didn’t, and they were ‘named’ a number of times, you would have plenty of ammunition to take to your AGM to make sure they weren’t re-elected.

      There is more on this on the Flat Chat Forum.

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      Sir Humphrey
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        @JimmyT said:
        How do you stop a loud-mouthed bully from dominating a strata committee? You know the type; they assume their way is the only way and shout and scream like a spoiled child – or sneer sarcastically like a pantomime villain – when anyone suggests an alternative.

        Free and energetic discussion is to be encouraged, but all too often the politics of the playground take over with the strongest opinion prevailing over quiet logic while the majority acquiesce to the bullies rather than become the target of their aggression…

        Indeed. Even this ‘strata guru’ has decided to call it a day and resigned from his committee. The bully was bad enough but the acquiescence of some of the others on the EC was really the last straw. Some just kept their heads down or tried to keep the peace while others scored points by siding with the bully. Not knowing whether you had support or not and every little issue getting bigger than Ben Hur is what wore me down. So I am having a break from our committee for a bit. Most of what I wanted to see done has been done now and I might be able to do more from outside the tent for a while. 

        I expect the new guy will manage to alienate a fair few owners soon enough and I will be able to console myself with a little schadenfreude. 

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        azennaro
        Flatchatter

          Hi I tried to raise a dispute with the commissioner qld regarding a breach of code of conduct from a commiittee member with several attached examples of the emails by the chairman to the committee bully .only to be told sorry you have to get 25 % of the building behind you to ask to have her removed.
          Why can the matter not be held as a conciliated matter at least they would have to be held accountable to attend and have the cide of conduct enforced bt penalry point’s x amount and hour off the committee. It’s useless having a code of conduct if the commissioner won’t except the matter.Enforce the code and less people would breach it just because they are the committee bully

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