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A resident living on the top floor of our complex has been flying the Australian flag for over a year now and just recently another 4 owners have started doing this as well. There are protocols involved with flying the flag which states the Australian flag shouldn't be flown at night unless properly illuminated.
Some residents are starting to complain especially on windy days and nights when the flags can be quite noisy.
Is this something our E.C. should be stopping except on days such as Australia Day and Anzac day. I'm not sure if our by-laws do cover this except maybe the appearance of lot and peaceful enjoyment of others by-laws.
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Sorry about the name Jimmy.
What would you and your readers say if I wanted to fly my Indigenous flag? Would you still howl it down as others did when Cathie Freeman carried it at the Olympics.
Please explain to me, as I must have missed it in Ethics 101 how flying the Australian or any flag, other than perhaps the nazi flag, can offend anyone. Surely the person being offended is the person with the intolerance problem. I personally get offended by people with bigger ego's than their intellect, but that is my problem and I have to deal with it.
By the way, one of the other flag flying offenders in the complex is a South African, and there is no patriotic zeal, he just likes it.
More information, we have had one letter of complaint and countless comments of how good it looks not only from residents but people who use the adjacent walking path. I hope I haven't been associating with a whole lot of racists. I had better go and check under the bed incase there are some more racists under there hanging out with the communists, you can't be too careful these days.
By the way you aren't the Jim Thompson who started the silk business in Thailand and then disappeared in Malaysa in 1967 are you because you have a great business going back there.
There are lots of reasons that could be mounted against flying a flag but no one has discussed them, they are still entrenched in the own prejudices and phobias.
Just for a laugh, Just4alaugh, consider the following; the assertions above that the flag/s can sometimes be noisy, there are protocols which should be observed to do with flying the aussi flag and not everyone would agree that it’s OK under the Strata Titles Act and your building’s by-laws, or that it doesn't significantly changes the character of the building.
I suggest it probably needs to be approved by a Special Resolution at a general Meeting. Go for it and please DO keep us all informed.
Just4alaugh said:
By the way you aren't the Jim Thompson who started the silk business in Thailand and then disappeared in Malaysa in 1967 are you because you have a great business going back there.
There are lots of reasons that could be mounted against flying a flag but no one has discussed them, they are still entrenched in the own prejudices and phobias.
J4aL
I sense another ‘red card’ moment coming up. Be careful that you do not have an action for libel or slander to deal with as well.
You seem the be the type of person who quickly skims the posts in this forum, gets your knickers in a knot, and them shoots off an uninformed response misquoting the post.
The majority of people who use this forum may be passionate about their issue/s but rarely does anyone take cheap swipes at those who disagree with them.
You say no-one has discussed reasons against flying a flag from a Strata property but other than has already been stated, it is incorrect to have one flag flying under another. There are protocols about how the Australian flag is flown and how other flags can be flown in close proximity, especially from other Nations.
Having a series of flags from different countries flying from one flagpole is as bad as flying a flag upside down.
Thanks Leigh
Yes I was very aware and concerned that the flag may have been noisy in windy conditions, I made sure all fittings were wrapped in plastic and the ropes are set up so as not to generate noise.
I agree with the idea of protocols, particularly on Government buildings, but this is just a little bit of fun, people comment on it all the time, yes we know where you live, under the flag, good on you.
I am not going to take it down at night nor illuminate it. Too much time in industry solving real problems.
There are other issues of structure, wind loading etc. which I believe I have considered and found solutions for.
The one of noise probably the most relevant.
The one complaint received revolved mainly around appearance and the same sort of issue of racism etc. In my experience so far, and there have been some very windy days, the noise is almost non existent and we are some distance from other lots. The noise from the flag is probably similar to that generated by the leaves on the bushes on the pot plants, or from the washing left out on the balcony by the complainent.
The matter is in the hands of the EC to deal with, it may or may not go to be voted on. All we can do is follow the process and treat everyone equally.
Urban, in relation to “what the sums are actually for” look up sarcasm and levity, I hope everyone else got it.
FCF, its a joke, Are you being sarcastic or tongue in cheek?
No one said anything about flying several flags on the one pole.
Thanks Jimmy and the others for your time and input.
I shouldn't have become upset by the sort people who see flying the flag as racist and imply that i am also a racist. Over sensitive I guess.
There doesn't seem to be anything that has been achieved here.
Bye
Just4alaugh said:
Lets get it out in the open, I am the flag waver on the top floor, I have come out at last. Oh I feel better now.
the flag is on an old sailboard mast I modified to suite. I think it looks very professional….
I think you and your friends just continue with the suite of flags all over your building and hopefully none of them come adrift and blow away.
This discussion seems to have got out of control, to an extent that degrades the respect and dignity due to the flag. All concerned should visit https://www.itsanhonour.gov.au/symbols/flag.cfm#protocols and take note of what is said there. It does not seem to be in our makeup to fly the flag to the extent that Americans do, nor should we feel we have to. However, if the flag is to be flown, on a strata building or anywhere else, it should be done properly — with the respect and dignity mentioned above. Whoever advised Pauline Hanson on that video years ago has a lot to answer for.
Fine by me … but now that you’ve raised it again it’ll be in the recent forum posts column and …ooo …errr
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